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Not Manson or any group leader, just the possible universal unconscious stream of
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Around 1100BC, sophisticated Phoenicians arrived from what is now Lebanon, founding settlements at
Cádiz and Málaga and introducing the concept of currency. Greek traders established colonies around 650BC,
enjoying a brief period of wealth thanks to Andalucías rich mineral deposits. Olives and grapes, two important
crops today, were introduced at this time.
The Greeks were soon ousted by the Carthaginians, people fron Carthage (near present day Tunis)
in North Africa, who moved in and occupied most of Andalucía, using the regions mineral wealth to
finance a huge military presence. Under the General Hannibal, they prepared to attack Rome but
were defeated in the Second Punic War in 214BC.
The Romans, vandals and visigoths
The Romans, welcomed by the Andalucían people in 210 BC, after years of oppression, begain to build on an unprecedented scale,
transforming
Andalucía into one of their richest and best organized colonies, which
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paved roads. Roman galleys sailed up its main river, now called the Guadalquivir, as far as Córdoba. Remnants of which can be
seen
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N340 coastal highway, an early version of which connected
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Rome. The region was named Baetica with Córdoba as its capital and 400
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enjoyed the fruits of a thriving industry in wine,
olive oil, wool and grain.
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tribes from northern europe. First to arrive in
409AD were the Vandals, who named the area Vandalusia, and shortly afterwards the Visigoths, a Germanic race of Aryan Christians
ostensibly allied with Rome, who promptly claimed Roman lands for themselves and ruled for 300 years.
The Moors
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Moors, assorted Berber and North African tribes united by their Muslim
faith, saw the opportunity to move into the still wealthy
Vandalusia.
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of al-Andaluz.
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tolerant attitude of the Moors meant that Jews, Christians and Muslims
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development began, during which time the architecture, philosophy and learning developed quickly. Oranges and peaches were
cultivated
and ceramics, leather and silverware were crafted. Rather than
destroying what had gone on before them, the Moors used
Roman
buildings as a basis for further development, adding their own style to
form the astonishingly beautiful monuments that can be
seen today in Córdoba, Granada and Sevilla.
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begain to slowly fall apart around the 11th century. The ruler
Abd-ar-Rahman III had established himself in 928 as Caliph
of
Córdoba but his weaker successors let the caliphate disintergrate until
1031AD, when it split up into a series of taifas, small kingdoms
which
were constantly squabbling. The Christian armies of Northern Spain
moved in and captured the Taifa of Toledo. The Moors had
to call
for reinforcements, which brought a wave of Islamic fanaticism as the
puritanical Almoravids from North Africa came into power in
1086.
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them out and set about rebuilding al-Andaluz, only to be
defeated themselves by the Christians in 1212, which was the beginning of the end for Moorish Spain. Over the next 290 years the
Moorish
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they
dynastic partnership of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile,
Los Reyes Catolicos, or the Catholic Kings, as the were
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Muslims,
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Echo_Dek
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Moors............confusion
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The Moors are not a specific race of people. The word has never
been clearly defined and remains ambiguous and confusing.
This term has been broadly used to denote various people in
North Africa, people who came from Morocco or simply to describe
Muslims in general
Moreno is Spanish, Portuguese and Filipino for a tanned or
dark or brown-skinned person. In origin the term was used to refer to
a person with brown or black hair color, regardless of skin or eye color
(synonym for Brunette), nowadays both meanings co-exist.
It is also a Spanish and Italian surname and an Italian given name.
This word comes back to Latin and beyond to old Greek where "Mauri"
are the inhabitants of "Mauretania or Mauritania", the name
of North-Western Africa ( present Morocco and Mauritania ) "Mauri"
turned into "Moros" in Spanish, hence "Moors" and "moorish"
in English.
mavros" in modern Greek means "black", NOT ANCIENT TIMES____
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CHRONOLOGY OF AFRICANS IN EUROPE
1897BC Egyptian king Sewosret colonizes Greece: founds Athens (Legend)
202BC Carthaginian Hannibal defeats Rome
256BC-253AD Thousands of Africans serve in Roman army
711-1492AD Islamic North and West Africans and Arabs invade and rule Spain
827AD Moors begin invasion of Sicily and Rome
In
711AD Spain was invaded by Islamic invaders who would rule there for
the next hundred years. These invaders would
build lasting monuments
and influence the culture of Europe in the area of science, medicine,
literature and music for centuries to come.
North Africa:
Is part of the Arab world Known as the mediterrian people not black africans
The Sub-Saharan region:
Is
known as Black Africa in reference to its "black" populations. The term
bilâd as-sûdân itself literally translates to "land of the blacks".
Unfortunately, Black Africans made no cultural contributions in Iberia. Black Africans in Spaniard and Lusitanian lands,
and in other parts of Europe, were slaves and servants, in great part. That is the sad truth. "Moor" was (and is still today)
a very ambiguous term used to describe a number of different peoples, but, predominantly North African types-Berber or
Arab. Groups that are Caucasoid/Semetic/Hametic-essentially whites of non-European origin. Of course, the "Moors"
did contain black african elements. In the Arab/Berber invasion of Visigothic Iberia (711), there were very small groups
of black slaves and servants along with some freedmen. Later on, during the Almoravid advance in the 11th century,
blacks from southern Morocco and Senegal were incorported into the fighting force, either as converts to Islam or
mercenaries.
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Im afriad black people through out history have always been subjected to slavery by arabs, chinies and Europeans
So this whole Notion that Moors are Black Africans and how Black Africans where the brains behind the Egyption
pyramids or that beethoven was black or Hannibal was black is a pure fiction.
phatius
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From: Yorkshire, England
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Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 3, 2008 5:50 AM
Your ignorance is estounding!
a picture is worth a thousand words
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Las Cantigas de Santa Maria is a manuscript made up of four codices that depicts the daily life, religious beliefs, music, customs, and art from the 13th
century, of the courts of Castile and Leon in Northern Spain. In codex
J.b.2, there are approximately four hundred and twenty-seven
compositions in honor of the Virgin Mary; with every tenth cantigas
(song) beginning with a miniature; an illumination of musicians playing
instruments. I had begun embroidering again, and had found two images
from this codex that I had used the Split stitch with. Then I learned
the Laid Work stitch at a local Fiber Arts Guild, and I thought it
would be interesting to apply this technique to a medieval picture. The
musicians and instruments were a great match, and I have been busy
finding more images to embroider over the years.
guitarlike-instruments-by-christian-and-moor3
This picture I call Christian and Moor Playing Guitar-Like Instruments,
for I don’t believe I have found titles for each of these miniatures. I
have seen this image in several different books and on web sites, and
each time I saw it, the eyes of the Moor musician were scratched out.
It was a thrilling experience to put his eyes back in as I embroidered
him in this patch. My favorite resource for this image I found as a
tile that was tipped-in to the book. The book is volume one of a 2-book
set entitled: Spain: A Musician’s Journey through time and space by
Walter Starkie.
Echo_Dek
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From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (3 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 3, 2008 6:13 AM
Enlighten me............
phatius
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From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (4 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 3, 2008 7:16 AM
tee hee,
before i go on, this is not an asumption but a plain question.
Are you capable of civilised discusion? or is it that you just want to rattle some cages
Echo_Dek
Posts: 24
From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (5 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 6, 2008 12:04 AM
lol a bit of both hey? nah just here to chat
phatius
Posts: 411
From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (6 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 6, 2008 4:30 AM
Well
there are many pictures both artistic representations and actual
photo's of black moors, i understand
that morroco and that reigion of
Africa was during the time of the muslim moors were not run by Black
Africans,
there is much evidence of Non Black africans being present in
that part of Africa for thousands of years, however
black people have
always populated the north of Africa, Either that or all the rock art
depicting black africans
from as far back as 8,000 BC,Without
going into it to much the Generals who conquored spain were black moors
that were sent to do the work of the sultan's, they also carried out
construction work in moor controlled spain,
however once moorish spain
became desirable,The arab elites traveled to spain to take control and
credit for the
work that had been done to conquore and build.but
honestly im not going to go into it because I made a promise
not to get
into who is black and who is not, the moorsas a whole were not black
however, the term moor has
been used for black northern africans far
longer than the arabpresence in northern africa
Echo_Dek
Posts: 24
From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (7 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 13, 2008 1:07 AM
No im afriad moors never meant black skin..........
if you think about Europs first word for black skin is that infamous word the "N word" which was coined from Romans
The
point is this sub sahara africans never conquored spain never invaded
europe never lifted Europe out of the Dark
ages infact the moors did
not left europe out the dark ages if they did we would all be muslims
If I was you do some research on ST Patrick and what gives us ST patricks day and how Ireland saved Europe from
the Dark Ages
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385418492
phatius Posts: 411 From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (8 of 18) Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 14, 2008 4:04 AM What on earth was that all about?????
For
one nobody said anything about sub saharan africans. pluss the phrase
Sub Saharan, is a term racist anthropologists have turned into a
comonley and widley used phrase in order to be able to seperate
africans and therfor say that all sub saharans are the real black
africans therfor neglect the achivments of other black africans.
North Africa has always had a population of Black africans, nobody said anything about sub saharan africans. where did i say that Black africans lifted europe out of the dark ages? Where
did i say Moor means Black? the word Moor comes from the country
"Mauritania" look up where this country is located, it was "controlled"
by morocco but only a centry or two before the word moor was coinded by
the greeks in around the late 13 hundreds it was part of the Malian
empire, And it's main populouse were more related to west africans than
anyone else "at that period of time".
It
did not mean black, however it did mean Dark skinned, and later was
used to describe all muslims indiscriminantly of skin colour, however
it was a term originaly used for dark skinned people and was taken from
a region that contained mostly black africans.
You
seem to be quite upset at the idea that people of Black or at least
Dark skin could have had any influence on Eurpean culture, why? you
became very defensive about things that i hadn't even suggested. However
At the time many black people served the arab sultans "not like the
chattel slavery of the atlantic trade" but more in a servent manner,
also the ranks of their army's were filled with black africans (nobody
said anything about sub saharan,though black africans come in all
types just like caucasions do) And it was these black african soldiers
and generals that were given charge of the invasions and occupation of
parts of spain, "why should the sultans and their sons do the hard work
when they can send others to do the work for them and then after the
work is done come and claim their victorys" Though
I make no claim that the moorish invasions of spain pulled Europe out
of the dark ages by it'self, it is safe to say that moorish spain for
the most part was the most civilised part of Europe while it was there,
also many European customs and ettitquette was taken from Moorish
spain. Such as using crystal wear at meals "actualy an african custom
wich was absorbed into the Arab world wich many people now take as an
arab custom" the three course meal for example, carpeted floors instead of hey and straw" to totaly neglect the good influences that moorish culture had on europe is like saying "what did the romans ever do for us?" and
by the way it wasn't the N word that was used and it wasn't coined by
the romans either, it was coined by the spanish and the word was N-egro
wich means black in spanish and is not a derogotary term, it is the
same as saying caucasion, the word your thinking of was coined in the
US wich was originaly meant as a derogatery term. I
just noticed where you are posting from, the beautiful South Africa, i
hope you do know that South Africa is very famouse for it's propoganda
against black history "as a tool to keep those lower unworthy *cough*
blacks in place"i
do hope that those brain washing propoganda techniques or any sort of
feeling of superiority are not the cause of your post
Echo, id like to
think that somone who wishes to discuss history in a civilised manner
isn't swayed by such ignorence and arogance.
Echo_Dek
Posts: 24
From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (9 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 15, 2008 7:14 AM
my
friend u need to relax abit....im not attacking u....look i gave a
short paragraph for things for u to check out was in a rush i
dont have
time to sit and write a whole paragraph.
Title of this thread Moors .....confusion.
A)
Moors did not rescue europe from the dark ages as most people seem to
think.....infact it was the Irish who saved Europe.
If all the Moors
could offer was 3 caurse meals and cystal wear then damn they where
clearly uncivlisied in Europe.
B) Black people have always occupied North Africa = False!
Berbers are prehistoric people of North Africa
Berbers, aboriginal Caucasoid peoples of N Africa, called Imazighen in the Tamazight language.
They inhabit the lands lying between the Sahara and the Mediterranean Sea and between
Egypt and the Atlantic Ocean
C) Please look up Imazighen
D) Sub Saraha = Racist?? (scratching my head on that one) where did u pull that one from thats like saying people
of USA are americans therefore im racist and thats a racist thing to say.
E)Saharan rock art = berbers not black (sub Saraha africans)
F) Moors came from Mauretine = correct
G) Moors = black skin which u refer to as dark skin = incorrect reference to hair color not skin color
H)if it comes from africa there for it must be black = false i am a white african born and rasied here.
G)
If black africans (sub sarahan africans) have always occupied north
africa therefore black africans have always accupied
the entire
contanent of Africa there for all ancient achievements in africa are
black africans = False. If blacks built the pyramids
then why dont we
see pyramids across africa since they had the culture to build them,
just like we see across South America?
have
to teach yourself that because it comes from africa there for it is
black is silly. fact west africans and east africans and
sub sarahan
africans and north africans are different race groups they are distinct
in origin. its like saying the aboriginies of
Austrilia are africans
because they black. they not they are a different race group they are
distinct in origin.
So to assume that north africans are black or have always belonged to blacks is incorrect
Heres a kicker for you... the bushman? negra or something else?
Sapian
Sapian
Sapian
phatius
Posts: 411
From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (10 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 15, 2008 8:20 AM
The
reason why the term Sub saharan african is racist, is the the way it is
used, granted if we were talking purley geography
no sub saharan
wouldn't be racist, though the term would of been south saharan.
Are
black, west, east, south, north, central, africans different races, YES
of course they are, infact there are numerouse
black races within each
region, and the races also cross borders from east to west, from north
to south,
What
you are implying as that anyone from bellow the saharan, or from west
africa, are the only black people, any other
people indiginouse to any
other area in Africa are NOT black,
P.S. the berbers are not caucasoid, if anything they would be more typical of asiatic folks.
Do
i think that there were no other people other than Black people in
north africa, no, did i say that anywhere... no. what
i did say is
black people have always been indiginouse of north africa,. p.s. have a
look at the north african rock paintings,
the majoirty depict a black
race, some of them depict other races however the majority of north
african rock are reflect a
black populas (not i do not mention sub
saharan)
You continualy bring in arguments that i have never even made, such as why arn't there pirimids in other regions of africa,
well if i did make that statment there are two things i could say.
One) there are two)
why didn't other cultures in Europe build, or engineer great feets such
as the Romans or Greeks, ohhh,
i guess that means that the Greeks or
Romans where not really caucasoid, pluss you can see by their curly
hair fuller lips and larger
noses, along with their darker skin they
were really Black people, just of a lighter complexion than theire
african counterparts
........ How silly does that sound? now you know
how you sound
Anybody
who has a knowledge of ancient african history (not afrocentric, just
basic) that is not based on text books from the
1950's and 60's) will
understand why the whoe Sub saharan paradime is flawed - for one the
entire term Sub Saharan is outdated
, ilogical, biased on the principle
that the sahara served as a barrier. Some kind of ancient wall keeping
all the peoples of africa
seperated from each other.
Nothing
could be further from the truth. Especialy since the Sahara was once a
flurishing green enviroment encompasing many
different peoples "from
all the evidence black people" since in this period of history the
sahara was populated it cannot be used
as an ancient devide.
You may not know this but there are carvings that pre-date dynistic egypt, depicting black people hunting with horse drawn
chariots, in lands full of plant life and animals.
this is why i disagree with the term sub saharan because in an ancient context there was no such thing as a saharan
divide there for black folk from all over africa were free to travel through the sahara in any direction they decided.
Also the fact that black people have navigated the more recent desert regions of the sahara for ages, and it was these
black people who showed the arabs how to navigate the sahara in order to establish the vast trading posts at all sides
of africa most notably of the malian empire.
again to the different races, do you class skandinavians, greeks, italians, germanic, spanish, the peoples indiginouse
to the british isles, as different races? yes
does that mean that there not white? or caucasion... no
you
see you are mistaking somone using the term black, black is a term just
like caucasion is, (the term i would prefer to use
is not allowed by
history channel) you seem to think that the term black means west
african, i think you need to realise the
flaw in this asumption before
you can really understand even the poitns you are trying to make my
friend.
Your
arguments are very slack Echo, you say such things as, false but do not
explain why or how you come to the conclusion
they are false.
There
is no way on earth you can make an assertation of "black people have
never occupied north africa" you COULD say
"i have no evidence to
suggest black people ever occupied north africa" and even if you said
this all you need to do is look
at the 10 to 8000 year old rock art in
regions all over north africa. And as far as the Moors, all you need to
do is look at a
photographs of moors from over a hundred years ago.
Black people have not even been confined to africa never mind the north, there have been anciant
"black people" who have settled
in
regions such as iran to india, even accounts of black populations in
china and south america (by
chinese and south americans)
You
seem to have spoken to a few excentric Afrocentrists that have made
wild claims about black
people along the lines of black people invented
the moon, and black civilisations had nuclear technology
8000 years
ago, and of the sort and gone allllllll the other way by trying to
asume that black people have
had no cultural inluence on the world and
have never been, traveld or migrated outside there small corner
of the
world were they remain savage canibals, that the white man has
attempted to civilise.
p.s.
the reason you were born in Africa (as im sure your aware) is because
your ancestors invaded the
region, it dosn't make you indiginouse to
Africa because you were born there, do i doubt that you are
African,,,
no, do i think you using im white and i was born in africa as an
extreamly silly stetment... yes
Echo_Dek
Posts: 24
From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (11 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 23, 2008 2:42 AM
All you need to know about North Africa
http://www.north-of-africa.com
I would suggest learn this first before having a debate with some from africa
Echo_Dek
Posts: 24
From: south africa
Registered: 10/2/08 (12 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 23, 2008 3:49 AM
to give you a beter idea of people from North Africa
Guanches came from the same stock as the berbers in the
Atlis mountians inhabitiants of Teneref
heres a statue of one
http://www.rinconcitocanario.com/wallpapers/fotos3/los-guanches-1.jpg
http://www.north-of-africa.com/article.php3?id_article=463
http://www.north-of-africa.com/article.php3?id_article=486
http://www.north-of-africa.com/article.php3?id_article=494
http://www.north-of-africa.com/article.php3?id_article=210
phatius
Posts: 411
From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (13 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 27, 2008 9:27 AM
> All you need to know about North Africa
> www.north-of-africa.com
>
> I would suggest learn this first before having a
> debate with some from africa
For
somone who tries to seperate North Africa from the rest of Africa you
seem like quite the hypocrit to start
using "im from africa" being that
you are pretty much as far away from north africa as can be.
And
by your logic of north africans being of european (caucation decent) by
your logic id be better place to
talk about the North of Africa but
lets put all that behind us shall we. Now i thought this discusion was
about
the moors, so lets get back to that shall we?
Alright
so your argument was that there is no such thing as a black moor, where
as my argument was based on
the fact that the moors were not a racial
group and consisted of arabs, berbers (of different races because
berber is not a racial group) and Neegro Africans.
Now
there is known to be a large migration of neegro africans into portugal
between the eighth and thirteenth
centuries from the mediterranean
basin. This is becase of the BS haplotypes refuring to the sickle cell
trait. Now
the BS haplotypes of sickle cell are only reflective of one
group, neegros.
The
same BS haplotype sickle cell trait migrated into portugal again on a
noticable scale, but this time after
the 15th century (i.e. the
atlantic slave trade)
How
did this large migration of the BS haplotype sickle cell trait get to
portugal between the eighth and
thirteenth century being that this is a
trait known only to the neegro race, and is identical to the influx
during the atlantic slave trade,
If
it was mainly caucation's, or even mostly Arab's that populated
portugal then then this type of sickle
cell would not be the most
notable form in the country it would of been the asian or arab
haplotype,
oh
and by the way before you go of and say that i am lying or i don't know
what i am talking about, this
from the 1992 edition of the journal
"human biology" and the name of the aritcal was "importation route of
the sickle cell trait into portugal"
now
if this trait got as far as portugal during the migration of the moors
into hispanic europe it is also pretty
safe to say that it went into
spain aswell.
Instead
of suggesting i learn from your chosen web sites i suggest you learn to
open your mind to the
possiblity that neegro's might of possibly
achieved more than poughing cotten.
Why does that concept upset you so much?
p.s. if you are taking "all you need to know about north africa" from one web site i suggest you
broaden your horizons
phatius
Posts: 411
From: Yorkshire, England
Registered: 2/18/08 (14 of 18)
Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
And
by the way Echo Derk, as well as getting your information from more
than one source, perhaps
you should choose a less obviously biased site
to take your studies from,
I
mean a french site that has articals on their about the benifits these
lowly africans gained from
their french colonists isn't exactly a site
id that comes accross as objective
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Re: Moors............confusion
Nov 7, 2008 3:30 AM
Facts;
I dont know why the eidtors keep taking of my posts
The Y-DNA Haplogroup T (former K2)
Haplogroup J (M304) the pioneered the first neolithic revelotion (humans changed from hunter to settler)
The Y-DNA Haplogroup T (former K2)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/314/5806/1767?rss=1
Sequencing
of 81 entire human mitochondrial DNAs (mtDNAs) belonging to haplogroups
M1 and U6 reveals
that these predominantly North African clades arose
in southwestern Asia and moved together to Africa
about 40,000 to
45,000 years ago. Their arrival temporally overlaps with the event(s)
that led to the peopling
of Europe by modern humans and was most likely
the result of the same change in climate conditions that
allowed humans
to enter the Levant, opening the way to the colonization of both Europe
and North Africa.
Thus, the early Upper Palaeolithic population(s)
carrying M1 and U6 did not return to Africa along the
southern coastal
route of the "out of Africa" exit, but from the Mediterranean area; and
the North African
Dabban and European Aurignacian industries derived
from a common Levantine source.
Haplogroup J (M304) the pioneered the first neolithic revelotion (humans changed from hunter to settler)
http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ta/tad.html
Here: http://www.nativewiki.org/Berber
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Berber-Jews
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Berber-languages
Tamazight is a member of the Afro-Asiatic language family
(formerly called Hamito-Semitic), along with such languages
as Hausa, Hebrew, Arabic, and Maltese.
the moors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsian_culture
Morroco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco
Algeria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria
Tunisia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia
Sequencing of 81 entire human mitochondrial DNAs
(mtDNAs) belonging to haplogroups M1 and U6
reveals that these predominantly North African clades
arose in southwestern Asia
Lybians = berbers
http://www.catchpenny.org/images/seti1a.gif
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http://www.north-of-africa.com/IMG/jpg/setis1_grave.jpg
4 berbers, Nubian, Syrian and egyptain
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May 25, 2009
Sometimes I love this profession
http://www.alanclarkegraphics.com/
And then there are these things of exquisite beauty by Alan Clarke. Wonderfully evocative.
Bright, fun, exciting.
Simple and yet complex. The kind of thing you'd buy and stick on the wall.
Graphic design at it's best. Lovely.
I think Alan is a recent graduate, but I may be wrong. Sadly these posters are only speculative and not actually
for the 2012 Olympics. But if someone from Tfl or LOGOC is reading you should give him a call, right now.
(Or maybe tomorrow, after the holiday.)
May 25, 2009 in Graphic Design Industry Stuff, Graphic Design Reviews
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Moon Anomalies - How does NASA explain this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WwL20p7h_o&feature=related
UFO WATCHMAN presents HOLLOW EARTH 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpsh4GeVfs&feature=related
UFO WATCHMAN presents HOLLOW EARTH 2
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Mud Boy at ACL Festival 2009
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Alien Mud Child - Take 2
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BamBamFun (3 days ago)
Reply Must? be some good ganja he's been smoking! smishedbananas (4 weeks ago)
Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply I know him.
I have a class with him.
He's great, this kid knows true joy. I? would love to be able to express myself openly like him.
He's sweet to everyone and isnt afraid to be himself whether it's weird or not. GO YOU MUDBOY!!!
<3
iDejANCE (1 month ago)
Reply this is so hurtful? to watch. omg cmcomins (1 month ago)
Reply yea i took a picture? of this kid. went back to my group and was showing the picture..
then he came running through the crowd.
scarred for life.
GOLLUM
turtleowens09 (1 month ago) Show Hide -3 Marked as spam Reply "i luv you! hey! i luv you!" - mike
he is the anti-christ!!!!? 2012 is amongst us everybody..
i always see this doode near lbj library, say no to drugs!!!!!
GlenTheBeast 9 (1 month ago)
Reply us austinites call it 'dillo? dirt, thank you very much.
jennbootz349 (1 month ago)
Reply hey bored and drinking here im 19 and just? want to get some boondock tonight dreamworld003
(1 month ago) Show Hide -3
Marked as spam Reply Its not Funnier or any thing else its only poority of
this child for doing this work. he is not a dancer? or any thing else its only pooooority.
he wants money. chels0609 (1 month ago)
Reply omg this? is sooo funny i love micheal Sox Cody (1 month ago) Show Hide +1
Marked as spam Reply its? Gollum
ACL 2009 - Mud People - Sunday - Austin City Limits 2009- Ben Harper
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Text Comments (8) Options Loading...adriansanar2 (1 day ago)
Reply Nasty but cool? :D bananahanah425 (2 weeks ago)
Reply ya they spent so much time working on getting the grass all nice and
then it was ruined but the mud was? a blast to run around in lol geoemrick
(1 month ago)
Reply I agree with rise54321.
Why are there so many whiny bitchy overgrown babies in the world?
You're having fun playing in the whatever, someone steps into your ring of play,
and you see the ones who joined them as the victims?! They JOINED them.
You and your 43 year old whiny ass need to get your 5 foot long snooty nose
out of stuff like this? and stop messing everything up for everyone else! Jesus,
it's sickening! rise54321 (1 month ago) Show Hide +3
shparkee1 obviously shouldn't have been at this festiva in the first place, with all
the icky mud and crazy people ya know.
Go home? and sulk with whtever band you want comfortbaly on your DVD player and satellite tv.
Let the youthful live it up and dont be such an ass.
Shparkee1 (2 months ago)
I was right next to those guys..they should be arrested for assault. A couple of those women did
not want to? be thrown down and groped in the mud. I hope this is some inciriminating evidence.
I personally didn't want Dillo Dirt on face which is where it ended up when one of them scooped
it up, ate it and then clapped his hands..idiot!! I moved after that.
hamsteak7 (2 months ago)
Did anyone notice the funky way the dirt smelled?
Well..it's Dillo Dirt..a manure rich mud mixture. Hope? ya'll washed up!
What a great time we all had though!!!
Evil Machines FTP (2 months ago)
Reply i was there!! so funny,
so? much for grass at zilker park ahah rowsdower23 (2 months ago)
Reply Any one have video of me picking? up all the trash and then tackling a few mud-men?
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Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.
Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
http://quotations.about.com/od/stillmorefamouspeople/a/AlbertEinstein1.htm
Albert Einstein Quotations
Freedom: Albert Einstein Quotations
Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom.
Greatness: Albert Einstein Quotations
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
Funny: Albert Einstein Quotations
It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations
Logics will get you from A to B, imagination will take you everywhere.
Insight: Albert Einstein Quotations
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
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Around 1100BC, sophisticated Phoenicians arrived from what is now Lebanon,
Founding settlements established Colonie at Cádiz and Málaga and introducing the concept of Currency.
Greek traders People from Greece established Colonie around 650BC, enjoying a brief period of wealth thanks to
Andalucías rich mineral deposits Olives and Grapes, two important crops today, were introduced at this time.
The Greeks were soon ousted by the Carthaginians.
People from Carthage (near present day Tunis) Africa in North Africa, who moved in and occupied
(Founding
settlements established colonie ) most of Andalucía, Spain using the
regions mineral wealth to finance a huge military presence.
Under the General Hannibal, they prepared to attack Rome but were defeated in the Second Punic War in 214BC.
they stayed in Sicily and Southern Itily till today .
The Romans, vandals and visigoths
The Romans, Southern and Northen Itily welcomed by the Andalucían people in 210 BC, after years of oppression & Taxation,
begain
to build on an unprecedented scale, transforming Andalucía into one of
their richest and best organized colonies of Itily,
which they called Betis, crisscrossing the region with paved roads.
Roman Slave galleys sailed up its main river, now called the Guadalquivir, as far as Córdoba.
Remnants of which can be seen in the aquaduct of Nerja, the Roman Theatre of Málaga and even in the N340 coastal highway,
an early version of which connected Cádiz with Rome.
The region was renamed by the Romans Baetica with Córdoba as its capital and 400 years of prosperity followed during which
time the Latin language, Roman law and a form of Christianity became firmly established inforced by death penalty.
The people enjoyed the fruits of a thriving industry in wine, olive oil, wool and grain.
Eventually
however the Sypleleti corrupt Roman Empire crumbled and Baetica was
invaded by Barbarian German & French Pagan tribes
from
northern europe. First to arrive in 409AD were the Vandals, who named
the area Vandalusia, and shortly afterwards the Visigoths,
a
Germanic race of so called Aryan Christians ostensibly allied with
Rome, who promptly claimed Roman lands for themselves and ruled
ruthlesly for 300 years.
The Moors
The
Moors, assorted Berber and North African tribes united by their so
called Muslim faith, as did Roman Empire earlier, saw the
opportunity to move into the still wealthy Vandalusia which they helped create.
In
711AD, under the leadership of Tariq, the then governer of Tangier, a
vast Berber Black army crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and forced the
Visigoths
north into the mountians close to Jerez. Some 800 years of Black
Moorish rule followed in the newly named kingdom of al-Andaluz.
The
tolerant attitude of the Moors meant that Jews, Christians and Muslims
lived in harmony and a period of great wealth and cultural development
began anew, during which time the architecture, philosophy and learning developed quickly.
Oranges and peaches were cultivated and ceramics, leather and silverware were crafted.
Rather
than destroying what had gone on before them as did the so called Aryan
Christians allied with Rome, the Black Moors used Roman
buildings
as a basis for further development, adding their own style to form the
astonishingly beautiful monuments that can be seen today in
Córdoba, Granada and Sevilla.
Everything begain to slowly fall apart around the 11th century.
The
ruler Abd-ar-Rahman III had established himself in 928 as Caliph of
Córdoba but his weaker deckadent Roman like successors let the
caliphate
disintergrate until 1031AD, when it split up into a series of taifas,
small kingdoms which were constantly squabbling.
The Christian armies of Northern Spain moved in and captured the Taifa of Toledo.
The
Black Moors had to call for reinforcements, which brought a wave of
Islamic fanaticism as the puritanical anti Roman Almoravids from
North
Africa came into power in 1086. After 60 terrifying years, a more
tolerant sect, the Almohads drove them out and set about rebuilding
al-Andaluz,
only to be defeated themselves by the remnant Spanish Italian German
French Christians in 1212, which was the beginning of
the end for Black Moorish Spain.
Over the next 290 years the Moorish taifas of al-Andaluz were captured one by one by the Alied Christian forces.
The
last enclave, Granada, was conquered in 1492, the same year that
Columbus landed in the West Indies bring with him the un precidented
Papal
Bull he had purchased from Pope Inocent the III propoting to be
authored by god himselfe granting rights to all lands pepoles and
propperty yet
to be "discovered" in the "new Lands this meaant slavery for any "native" persons non christians or christian alike .
The New World had been "discovered" and Spain entered a new era under
they dynastic partnership of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of
Castile,
Los Reyes Catolicos, or the Catholic Kings, as the were dubbed by the Pope for a handsom fee.
The History of Spain under Christian rule
Despite promises of religious freedom after the capture of Granada,
Ferdinand and Isabella proceeded to persecute the Jews and Muslims,
eventually
expelling anybody who would not freely convert to Christianity and
causing those who had converted to flee in terror leaving there welth
to the "crown".
Black Moorish land and possessions were divided among wealthy Christians, creating a system of land ownership which has dogged
Andalucía ever since.
While
the rest of Spain basked in the glory of overseas conquests and their
subsequent wealth, Andalucía deteriated and was subject
to frequent Barbary pirate raids.
People fled inland to the Sierras, neglecting the coast which once again became an uncultivated desert.
In
1516 Carlos I, came to the throne a member of the Haspburg dynasty, and
was elected, Carlos V, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.
During his reign he neglected Spain in favour of Rome and the countries wealth was further drained.
A
new inquisition under Felipe II and his successor, Felipe III, led to
the final purging of the Muslims and Jews, depriving the country
of much skilled intelectual labour.
The Spanish Armada was sunk in 1588 as Felipe II attempted to invade England and expensive forays into the New World forced
Spain into further debt.
For the next 200 years, Spain was viewed by the rest of the World as a backward, insignificant place.
The Bourbon dynasty replaced the Spanish Kings during the War of the Spanish Succession and the English took Gibraltar in 1704.
Spain
fell under the influence of France for nearly 100 years and following
the Spanish defeat at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 off the
coast of Cadiz, the French proceeded to ransack the country of its wealth and architecural treasures.
The French were finally driven out in the War of Independence in 1814, aided by Britains Duke of Wellington.
Then
followed an era of coups and minor civil wars and the American colonies
asserted their independence one by one, Cuba being
the last to shake off Spanish rule in 1898.
Andalucía in the 20th century...
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who
hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.– Dwight D.
Eisenhower
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“ The more clearly we can focus our attention on the wonders and realities of the universe around us, the less taste
we shall have for destruction. ”
—Rachel Carson
The secrit life of plants
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The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird; Harper Paperbacks; March 8, 1989
A Stunning Documentation of Plant Sentience
The book, The Secret Life of Plants is quite possibly one of the most engrossing books pertaining to biology and
symbiotic relationships between plants and humans ever written.
The book alleges, with convincing proof, that plants can sense the emotions of living things around them, from other
plants, to fish and animals, to humans. A lie detector and related apparatus affixed to a plant measures significant
responses by the plant to its environment. Positive emotions, negative emotions, intent to harm, pain felt by a
separate organism can be "sensed" by the plant, as show by the detector.
Though it starts slow, the documentary movie, produced a decade earlier, in 1979, contains some astonishing
ootage of some of these types of experiments.
"I read this book more than a decade ago. It is one of those 'life-changing' books that gives a fundamentally new
perspective to the amazing world in which we live. I mark it among the most influential books I've read."
-- Sterling D. Allan, CEO, PES Network, Inc. (Jan. 11, 2009)
We list it here at PESWiki for its relevance to the electrical nature of all living things. As we come up with
new energy sources, we will need to understand how they interact with living systems, and make sure that
they are not detrimental to life.
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Bin Laden, Bush Serve the Same Master Globalists Fabricating"War of Civilizations"
By Henry Makow, Ph.D.
The
headquarters of Islamic terrorism is London England, where the
Anglo-American Establishment sponsors the radical "Muslim Brotherhood"
in order to advance its long-term goal of plutocratic global
dictatorship.
These
globalists have fabricated a bogus "war on terror" to crush the
remaining vestiges of nationalism and democracy in both Muslim
countries and the West. Expect more incitements like the current "Miss
World " imbroglio to convince both sides the other endangers its way of
life.
In
a comprehensive online report, the perceptive Hawaii-based researcher
Peter Goodgame concludes: "Osama bin Laden is not, nor has he ever
been, the leader of the international Islamist movement which is
directed by the International Muslim Brotherhood." http://www.redmoonrising.com/british911-2.htm
Goodgame
continues: "Osama bin Laden has been used effectively as a figurehead
for the Brotherhood's militant branch to take responsibility for its
atrocities, but he is not the mastermind… By the same token, the Muslim
Brotherhood is a tool by the British-based Globalists whose main
objective is to overthrow the established world order and create a new
one-world system of global governance."
Goodgame
cites former British Intelligence officer, Dr. John Coleman, who says
the Muslim Brotherhood is a secret freemason order set up by the great
names of British Middle East Intelligence, T.E. Lawrence, Bertrand
Russell and St. John Philby to "keep the Middle East backward so its
natural resource, oil, could continue to be looted."
The
Muslim Brotherhood has been used to check nationalist movements led by
such figures as Nasser, Bhutto and the Shah of Iran who tried to
develop their countries. Without the British, "radical Islam would have
remained the illegitimate, repressive minority movement that it has
always been, and the Middle East would have remained stable and
prosperous," Goodgame says.
The
Muslim Brotherhood is now a powerful faction in the global oligarchy.
Goodgame quotes Robert Drefuss, author of "Hostage to Khomeini" (1980):
"The
real Muslim Brothers are … the secretive bankers and financiers who
stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or
Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchic elite,
with smooth business and intelligence associations to the European
black nobility and, especially, to the British oligarchy.
And
the Muslim Brotherhood is money. Together, the Brotherhood probably
controls several tens of billions of dollars in immediate liquid
assets, and controls billions more in …everything from oil trade and
banking to drug-running, illegal arms merchandising, and gold and
diamond smuggling. By allying with the Muslim Brotherhood, the
Anglo-Americans are not merely buying into a terrorists-for-hire
racket; they are partners in a powerful and worldwide financial empire…"
By
fabricating a bogus war between Islamic fundamentalism and the West,
the globalists are able to attack their real enemy, humanity. Pulling
the strings, they will ensure that both Western and Muslim states are
degraded and finally completely subjugated to their odious rule.
The
globalists have long been using wars to subvert, demoralize and destroy
Western civilization. They backed the Nazis and the Soviets in World
War Two. They created the Punch and Judy show that was the Cold War.
They tied U.S. hands while backing Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam.
Who
are they? Also called the illuminati, they represent a recrudescence of
the alliance between Rothschild finance and European aristocracy
secretly coordinated by a Satanic dogma hidden in freemasonry. http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html
They
plan a new feudalism that will impoverish the middle classes,
depopulate and enslave the masses, and leave only the rich served by a
technocracy. The whole world will resemble a repressive third world
country governed by the IMF, UN and World Bank.
The
globalists are headquartered in London and centred on the
Rothschild-dominated Bank of England, MI-6 and the secretive Round
Table society, which spawned the Royal Institute of International
Affairs. The American branches include the Council on Foreign
Relations, CIA and the Rockefeller foundations which all ensure the
American people continue to finance and enforce one-world tyranny. The
Bush family has owed its prominence to this cabal ever since
grandfather Prescott Bush helped arrange financing for Nazism. http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
Zionism is supposed to represent the "West" in this sham war with Islam. Americans are being groomed to become like
Israelis,
victims of daily acts of "Muslim terror." Last week, when another
suicide bomber struck in Jerusalem, Benjamin Netanyahu said, "Whether
the explosion takes place in Bali, Moscow, New York or Jerusalem we are
all united in a war
against a common terrorist enemy."
According
to Swiss journalist Richard Labeviere ("Dollars for Terror: The United
States and Islam" 2000) radical Islam is an essential "complementary
enemy" to Zionism, which also seeks regional hegemony. According to the
"Yinon Memorandum"
(1982) Israel intends to splinter the Arab countries into several small cantons along ethnic lines. None of these will be able
to challenge Israel, which, like the US is a disposable tool of the globalist agenda. (207)
The
Palestinian terrorist "Hamas" movement is a product of the Muslim
Brotherhood. According to Labeviere, it serves the interests of the
Israeli right wing, and has received secret financial support from the
Israeli "Shin Beth." (203-205). Thus, Palestinian suicide bombers play
straight into Ariel Sharon's hand.
Meanwhile,
back in the USA, "Muslim terrorist attacks" are an excuse to lay the
foundations of a police state. These attacks, which could become
nuclear or biological, might serve as a pretext to declare martial law,
suspend elections and round up dissidents, i.e. anyone who does not buy
the lie.
This
may seem incomprehensible to Americans now when the economy is still
being propped up. Once the US has done the globalist's dirty work,
interest rates could rise and debt ridden Americans could be stripped
of their assets, as they were in
the Depression.
The Homeland Security Act is designed to control all US law enforcement agencies so that elements in the CIA and Mossad
can target Americans with impunity, like they did on Sept. 11. American agencies were designed to remain independent so
they could serve as a check on each other.
The
Act is also designed to allow George W. to place his henchmen in
positions of control. Remember, he is a product of a secret Satanic
cult, the "Skull and Bones." This sounds gruesome but the Twentieth
Century provided many precedents.
The illuminati was behind both Nazi and Communist mass slaughter and terror. Our position is akin to the European Jews
who disbelieved warnings of the holocaust.
There
is even a provision in the Homeland Security Act against whistle
blowers. Why? Another provision allows mandatory vaccinations while
giving vaccine manufacturers immunity from prosecution. Why? The "Total
Information Awareness" program will "red flag" troublemakers by
monitoring all personal communications and financial transactions, even
your library records. You didn't attack the WTC. Why are you targeted?
What
is the justification for this destruction of freedom, which Bush is
sworn to protect? In 14 months since Sept.11, 2001, there has been NOT
ONE Muslim terrorist attack in the US despite the bloody American
invasion of Afghanistan. If "Al Queda" were capable of pulling off
Sept. 11, don't you think it would have planned an encore? Don't get me
wrong: I am grateful to the Mossad and CIA for sparing us. But
Americans simply don't deserve freedom if they accept this obvious ruse
and its ominous consequences.
In
conclusion, mankind is in the clutches of a diabolical multi
generational conspiracy. A Satanic, criminal cartel has subverted all
social institutions and is slowly crafting a brutal global
dictatorship. Our political and cultural leaders are witting and
unwitting puppets. They are fabricating a phony war between Islam and
the West in order to subjugate both.
I
realize this vision seems incredibly bleak. The mass media casts a
powerful delusion of normalcy over us. However, expecting the worst
means you will never be disappointed. If you are wrong, you are
relieved. If you are right, you are prepared.
Henry
Makow, Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and the author
of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism and the new
world order are archived at his web site http://www.savethemales.ca He welcomes feedback at henrym@mts.net
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-----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Jan 22, 2010 9:21 PM To: Charles Mingus Subject: Re: 2 FORWARDS FROM CM3
A Negro must learn that there is no such thing as a Negro, only a person who has a resistance to sun burn.
The rest should be stated for all man. As you know “Sam said” we all bleed the same red blood. Amen.
God help those people in Hatii To be honest I never knew of the fault line in that area, and interesting enough there
is a fault line that run through central park Which they say if it breaks will be a 8-9 earthquake in NYC, what do you
think that would look like and how many if any countries would offer us help?
Happy New year..
2 FORWARDS FROM CM3 From: Ron To: ............Subject: 12 Things The Negro Must Do For Himself
Date: Jan 19, 2010 5:51 PM Attachments:
Thought you might find this interesting.
Written by a black woman in the 1900's.
12 Things The Negro Must Do For Himself
by Nannie Helen Burroughs
(Circa Early 1900's)
1.
The Negro Must Learn To Put First Things First. The First Things Are:
Education; Development of Character Traits; A Trade and Home
Ownership.
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