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Corgicar Could remote control car technology be setting the standards for future fuel technology, we have already seen a H20 powered car, it was interesting enough and when fuelled up went in a straight line for a bit then stopped.... Whoop..... Snooze. Corgi have just announced their H2Go, a groundbreaking new line of hydrogen fuel cell powered toys developed in partnership with Horizon Fuel Cell Technologies. The first  of the line up is the HF Mach 3.0, the world’s first and only hydrogen fueled radio controlled car = no disposable batteries.Powered by water and sunlight the kit comprises an RC car, a refueling station, solar panel and remote control. £130 is the asking price.

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        Hydrogen as a Lifting Agent - Hydrogen Balloons ! Autonomous systems
          
 Ah.. One of my personal favorite subjects. Flying in a lighter then air lifting body filled with Hydrogen.  Before you say the word Hindenberg and I'm forced to slap you go read the section on myths in the book regarding the Hindenberg.  The Hindenberg would of burned even if it was filled with Helium.  The SCIENCE is clear.  The catastrophe of ignorance and fear that resulted from that incident has held back modern aviation and transworld cargo for decades.  Lighter than air flight will again be done with hydrogen and it will open the globe up even more than the 747 has today.  I guarantee it. ( huge market here incidentally, just waiting for someone with courage and determination).   What is more interesting, is how hydrogen filled balloons were used doing the civil war.  What the reader will find even MORE interesting is how the Union had portable hydrogen generators to fill up these balloons that lifted men up into the air for observation and artillery spotting.  Here we are today trying to make a portable hydrogen generator and it was used extensively in the civil war and yes, Roy tells you exactly how they worked and even shows you the chemistry.  One of the wonderful things to remember about the hydrogen, solar and energy field is that most of this is NOT cutting edge technology.  Only the people who want to suck up your money and hype their stock want you to think that its the highest form of technology. It really is the reinvention and modernization of 100 to 200 year old technology.  Hydrogen is really high school level chemistry ( well..what used to be high school level )

The Real Secret in the Book,
...and its not Hydrogen.

 Most of you are not going to understand this.  You might have to read this paragraph twice, or more.  If you really understand this you will understand more about hydrogen and the future than 99.9% of the wannabe hydrogen advocates out there.  This theme is throughout the book and most people don't see it and say they can't see the trees because the forest is in the way.  I am very serious here, read carefully.  A few examples first; When I was in the Scientific Labs of Chrysler I went to our foundry for a project.  ( Foundries melt and pour steel or other metals, in this case for engines.)  They had a saying, " We are the only place in the company that "MAKES" anything.  Everyone else just assembles the car."  This is a very true statement.  When someone asks me what type of small business they should start I say, " Candle Making.".  Understand this example, making something from a mold is the ROOT of wealth creation.  You make something MORE valuable than the ingredients that went into it. 
Real estate agents, car dealerships, lawyers, sales people and prostitutes are all the same, they only provide a service. Dollars are exchanged for a service, a wealth or additional value is not created.  If I take 10 cents in wax and a 1 penny wick and make it in the shape of a teddy bear and sell it for $10 I've created wealth.  Now the point:  Gasoline, Diesel, Oil, Natural Gas are all called HYDROCARBONS. <-- See the word CARBON in there.  What did I say earlier about Carbon?  This means the liquid or the gas is ONLY made out of Hydrogen ( H ) and Carbon (C) atoms.  Nothing else.  The most common form of elemental carbon you see everyday is either charcoal briquettes or the graphite in a pencil lead. Don't let this fool you.  The hydrogen can be removed from the HydroCarbon and used for vehicle transportation and the Carbon can be turned into CARBON FIBER.  Carbon fiber is stronger than steel.  You can make physical things with it like cars, buildings, beams, plates, rope, houses, fabric, shirts, bullet proof vests.  It can also be thermally conductive or thermally insulating so it can be the insulation in your house and it can be the frying pan on your stove.  It can be electrically conductive or it can be an electrical insulation. So it can replace copper wire AND in another formulation it can be the insulation around the copper wire.  Carbon can and will build the world.  So when you take the Hydrogen out of the oil and use it for fuel ( that is a service ) you also take the carbon out of the oil and you make things ( you create wealth ).  That is what Roy means by Hydrogen being the key to a Wealth Expanding Economy.  You can either read his book or you can understand it.  The choice is yours, but you won't find this in anyone else's book.  Read this paragraph twice.

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  Stan Meyer's Waterdriven Car
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ (1 of 6) [3/16/2008 5:51:40 AM]

I believe one of the first priorities on the list would be to produce an abundance of energy. There really are two things we must do; produce an abundance of energy, and drastically increase productivity.

The magnecular water covers the energy issue. But with productivity we need to mechanize everything.

We should not have slaves making our clothing, and food. Robots and mechines should do everything.

And I mean everything.

Energy and productivity are really the only issues...
the rest; politics and religion can be assessed on the grounds of whether they promote or resist energy and productivity.

Ecology and humanity are enherent aspects of energy and productivity. If you destroy either one in the process energy and productivity cannot be sustained. What we are talking about is the whole picture of future progeny and not some finite gross industrialization.

Productivity would incorporate utilizing the best soil for growing food. This means we need to STOP building on our prime soil. Further we should actively teraform earths growing wastelands into firtal land.

Following significant change as here proposed we can then consider which planets to teraform in near by systems. The moon needs to be turned into a space station

     Solar,Hydrogen on demand is the distruction of Communisum and the Capitalist economic systems as we know it.

         Hydrogen on Demand means the distruction of
         communisum and capitalist economic system as
         we know it.


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Imagine running your car on water! That's correct, I said water.
Stanley Meyer did exactly that ! He modified his dune buggy to
run on water alone using the hydrogen to run his dune buggy
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I have decided to run a small engine on a low voltage electrolysis cell. The power
supply will be from a arc welder with additional circuitry to supply a rectified DC
output up to 100amp if need be .

This experiment will be to record the amount of gas needed to run the engine
continuously. I will then try and increase efficiency with ideas that may allow
a overall reduction of gas needed to sustain the engine. These future modifications
will include....

High Energy Ignition System Steam + Hydrogen System see this patent here
Vacuum Electrolysis Air Ionization Monatomic Hydrogen Production
High Energy Ignition System It has been suggested that a high energy
ignition system will further enhance the power and complete combustion
of the H/O...... more on this soon


Steam + Hydrogen System see this patent here and join my forum here to discuss it.

Vacuum Electrolysis
There has been speculation in the area of vacuum electrolysis concerning increased
efficiencies supposedly creating either more H/O or different atomic conditions
increasing energy levels?....more soon
See a vacuum experiment by Benoit.

Video 1
Video 2
more soon....note it did note run the engine it was only an experiment to see
the effects I don't think he noticed any improvements.

also read Archie Blues Patent 4,124,463 and see the Egas group file section for
more information.
 
Air and Gas Ionization
There is speculation in this area that the air and or water mist being ionized will
increase the thermally explosive energy yield during combustion....This theory is
based on Stan Meyers Water Fuel Injector see here.
Monatomic Hydrogen Production

If a feasible way exists to make Monatomic Hydrogen it will increase power, but not
as much as I thought .....refer to Tero's calculation here

The Cell
Tero Ranta came up with a brilliant low voltage series cell design, it can be viewed here.
Tero has been a great asset to low voltage and general experimentation.
I have changed a few things with his design for my personal needs, nothing is wrong with
his design I just over engineer things sometimes probably unnecessarily.

My drawings of the cell can be viewed here (Ms Paint). I have not yet had time to double
check dimensions..(more information soon). I will be building the cell soon when I can
afford to...I do not advise anyone to attempt to build this, It could be potential lethal
if it exploded!

     The Work Shop  (Click to enlarge Pictures)
 
        (more pictures soon)
        I'm flying!
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        Me Just after a Hydrogen Explosion! ..LOL

The Engine
My engines capacity is approx 70cc (I will verify that soon). I have kept the engine
internals standard but have modified it to have a electric start and have a 2 to 1
reduction drive to fire the spark every 720 degrees. This will prevent the waste spark
 causing a Backfire. I also have a T piece that will allow gas to enter through the
intake manifold. The two tank system may be used for other experiments where water is
 primarily used. The end picture shows the sensor I am using to help trigger the
ignition coil....more soon.

"click the image for thumbnail expansion"

Backflash Arrestor

I Tried to make a backflash arrestor but it didn't work... it exploded!...
so take note what not to do!... see this video and the pictures below....
(video soon)
(Click to enlarge images)
Before
Explosion
After
download the video here (QuickTime)
Grab the slider and see the explosion fame by frame and check out the point of ignition!
Tero suggested have a balloon or something that can be exploded off the top of the
backflash container and can easily be replaced... Great Idea !

I have also obtained sample pieces of porous metal that might work as a backflash
arrestor....more soon again don't build anything above it's dangerous!

The Engine Gas Requirements
After some time of discussion I have came to a conclusion that my engine will need approx
 10 litres per minute of Hydrogen/Oxygen from the electrolyser to run it constantly.
This means that it will produce  6.6 litres per minute of Hydrogen
Oxygen may help in the
combustion but is not really needed never the less it will produce
 4.4 litres per minute of Oxygen.

Calculations are a little confusing based on alot of peoples point of view? The information
here  looks very interesting. This link will send you to my appropriate forum thread Minimum
Hydrogen Ratio to Run a Engine? to discuss this intriguing topic.

It seems in my examination (see forum) that it should be able to run with much lower
Hydrogen per minute ratios but this may effect the power. Hopefully a stronger ignition
and higher compression ratios will increase the power so lower fuel ratios can be used?...
maybe we have to look more into precise port hydrogen injection for improved performance aswell?

I suppose this is exactly why I am building this little engine and powering it
with Hydrogen on demand so it can give some real proof of concept to these ideas
on improving efficiency.


The two to one reduction drive Electronics and High Voltage energy Ignition


The circuit I am using is designed by Ronald for the spark triggering system.
and can be viewed here
I have completed 90% of it and had it triggering by hand when it was rotated the disc.
I blew the mosfet for some reason so I am fiddling with the circuit at the moment.
The high voltage capacitor that I will be using was also designed by Ronald
Ronald gives these details...refer below


Either get a high voltage capacitor or make one out of aluminum foil.
Mine is:
Three 10" x 10" sheets of 0.125 plexiglass
Two 8.5" x 8.5" sheets of heavy duty aluminum foil
Put together in a sandwich  (plexi - foil - plexi - foil - plexi) 
(I just taped around the edges to hold it together). 
This gives you 298 pico-farads of capacitance.

Make sure you have a wire lead from each foil. 
Put this inline between the spark plug and the ignition coil.

(Coil>>>>>Homemade Capacitor>>>>>>>Sprk Plug)

If you use a commercial HV capacitor, don't go over .001 - .003 mf. 
You want a big quick powerful spark.......you don't want a long one.
If your capacitor gets too big, it won't discharge all the way, and
if it gets really big.....nothing will happen because you won't have
enough spark to charge it.
Ronald

I will be building this soon.....
I do not advise anyone to attempt to build this it could be potential lethal !!!


Ronald has also built a full 720 degree firing circuitry so you don't have to
go to all the hassle of the reduction drive see it  here Future Plans I aim to
design and build a Hydrogen fuel Injector/spark plug. Hopefully someone can
design the fuel injection electronics for me?


I hope to build a High voltage Cell either Stanley Meyer based or Eccles design
see here . This Patent By Eccles is based on the similar theory and is more
simple to replicate initially.

Anything to do with the Eccles or Stanley Meyers Technology you will need a good
variable  Pulse Generator and Oscilloscope to really see what's going on. I have
my eye on this system by CL systems seen here more info here.
good luck to all!

Murray

Progress Update
Low Voltage researcher reports 120% efficient cell

see here
Person claims to have modified his Cars ignition system and is running on Water!
The spark plug instantly explodes the compressed water mist.
Please support the researchers in the development  of the water fuel cell.
They are driven by the creative and imaginative spirit and are sharing all
their discoveries.

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Hydrogen on demand


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From: http://www.free-energy.cc/electrolysis.html

"...Water can be broken into Hydrogen and Oxygen using electricity. Standard
chemistry books claim that this process requires more energy than can be recovered
when the gases are recombined. This is true only under the worst case scenario.
When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, using a system
developed by Stan Meyers (USA) and again recently by Xogen Power, Inc., it
collapses into Hydrogen and Oxygen gas with very little electrical input. Also, using
different electrolytes (additives that make the water conduct electricity better)

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