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================================= http://www.spaindirecttravel.com/history.htm Around 1100BC, sophisticated Phoenicians arrived from what is now Lebanon, founding settlements at Cádiz and Málaga and introducing the concept of currency. Greek traders established colonies around 650BC, enjoying a brief period of wealth thanks to Andalucías rich mineral deposits. Olives and grapes, two important crops today, were introduced at this time.
The Greeks were soon ousted by the Carthaginians, people fron Carthage (near present day Tunis) in North Africa, who moved in and occupied most of Andalucía, using the regions mineral wealth to finance a huge military presence. Under the General Hannibal, they prepared to attack Rome but were defeated in the Second Punic War in 214BC.
The Romans, vandals and visigoths
The Romans, welcomed by the Andalucían people in 210 BC, after years of oppression, begain to build on an unprecedented scale, transforming Andalucía into one of their richest and best organized colonies, which they called Betis, crisscrossing the region with paved roads. Roman galleys sailed up its main river, now called the Guadalquivir, as far as Córdoba. Remnants of which can be seen in the aquaduct of Nerja, the roman theatre of Málaga and even in the N340 coastal highway, an early version of which connected Cádiz with Rome. The region was named Baetica with Córdoba as its capital and 400 years of prosperity followed during which time the Latin language, Roman law and Christianity became firmly established. The people enjoyed the fruits of a thriving industry in wine, olive oil, wool and grain.
Eventually however the Roman Empire crumbled and Baetica was invaded by Barbarian tribes from northern europe. First to arrive in 409AD were the Vandals, who named the area Vandalusia, and shortly afterwards the Visigoths, a Germanic race of Aryan Christians ostensibly allied with Rome, who promptly claimed Roman lands for themselves and ruled for 300 years.
The Moors
The Moors, assorted Berber and North African tribes united by their Muslim faith, saw the opportunity to move into the still wealthy Vandalusia. In 711AD, under the leadership of Tariq, the then governer of Tangier, a vast Berber army crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and forced the Visigoths north into the mountians close to Jerez. Some 800 years of Moorish rule followed in the newly named kingdom of al-Andaluz.
The tolerant attitude of the Moors meant that Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in harmony and a period of great wealth and cultural development began, during which time the architecture, philosophy and learning developed quickly. Oranges and peaches were cultivated and ceramics, leather and silverware were crafted. Rather than destroying what had gone on before them, the Moors used Roman buildings as a basis for further development, adding their own style to form the astonishingly beautiful monuments that can be seen today in Córdoba, Granada and Sevilla.
Everything begain to slowly fall apart around the 11th century. The ruler Abd-ar-Rahman III had established himself in 928 as Caliph of Córdoba but his weaker successors let the caliphate disintergrate until 1031AD, when it split up into a series of taifas, small kingdoms which were constantly squabbling. The Christian armies of Northern Spain moved in and captured the Taifa of Toledo. The Moors had to call for reinforcements, which brought a wave of Islamic fanaticism as the puritanical Almoravids from North Africa came into power in 1086. After 60 terrifying years, a more tolerant sect, the Almohads drove them out and set about rebuilding al-Andaluz, only to be defeated themselves by the Christians in 1212, which was the beginning of the end for Moorish Spain. Over the next 290 years the Moorish taifas of al-Andaluz were captured one by one by the Christian forces. The last enclave, Granada, was conquered in 1492, the same year that Columbus landed in the West Indies. The New World had been discovered and Spain entered a new era under they dynastic partnership of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, Los Reyes Catolicos, or the Catholic Kings, as the were dubbed by the Pope.
The History of Spain under Christian rule
Despite promises of religious freedom after the capture of Granada, Ferdinand and Isabella proceeded to persecute the Jews and Muslims, eventually expelling anybody who would not freely convert to Christianity and causing those who had converted to flee in terror.
Moorish land and possessions were divided among wealthy Christians, creating a system of land ownership which has dogged Andalucía ever since. While the rest of Spain basked in the glory of overseas conquests and their subsequent wealth, Andalucía deteriated and was subject to frequent Barbary pirate raids. People fled inland to the Sierras, neglecting the coast which once again became an uncultivated desert. In 1516 Carlos I, came to the throne a member of the Haspburg dynasty, and was elected, Carlos V, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. During his reign he neglected Spain in favour of Rome and the countries wealth was further drained.
A new inquisition under Felipe II and his successor, Felipe III, led to the final purging of the Muslims and Jews, depriving the country of much skilled labour. The Spanish Armada was sunk in 1588 as Felipe II attempted to invade England and expensive forays into the New World forced Spain into further debt.
For the next 200 years, Spain was viewed by the rest of the World as a backward, insignificant place. The Bourbon dynasty replaced the Spanish Kings during the War of the Spanish Succession and the English took Gibraltar in 1704. Spain fell under the influence of France for nearly 100 years and following the Spanish defeat at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 off the coast of Cadiz, the French proceeded to ransack the country of its wealth and architecural treasures. The French were finally driven out in the War of Independence in 1814, aided by Britains Duke of Wellington. Then followed an era of coups and minor civil wars and the American colonies asserted their independence one by one, Cuba being the last to shake off Spanish rule in 1898.
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The Moors are not a specific race of people. The word has never been clearly defined and remains ambiguous and confusing. This term has been broadly used to denote various people in North Africa, people who came from Morocco or simply to describe Muslims in general
Moreno is Spanish, Portuguese and Filipino for a tanned or dark or brown-skinned person. In origin the term was used to refer to a person with brown or black hair color, regardless of skin or eye color (synonym for Brunette), nowadays both meanings co-exist. It is also a Spanish and Italian surname and an Italian given name.
This word comes back to Latin and beyond to old Greek where "Mauri" are the inhabitants of "Mauretania or Mauritania", the name of North-Western Africa ( present Morocco and Mauritania ) "Mauri" turned into "Moros" in Spanish, hence "Moors" and "moorish" in English.
mavros" in modern Greek means "black", NOT ANCIENT TIMES____
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CHRONOLOGY OF AFRICANS IN EUROPE 1897BC Egyptian king Sewosret colonizes Greece: founds Athens (Legend) 202BC Carthaginian Hannibal defeats Rome 256BC-253AD Thousands of Africans serve in Roman army 711-1492AD Islamic North and West Africans and Arabs invade and rule Spain 827AD Moors begin invasion of Sicily and Rome
In 711AD Spain was invaded by Islamic invaders who would rule there for the next hundred years. These invaders would build lasting monuments and influence the culture of Europe in the area of science, medicine, literature and music for centuries to come.
North Africa: Is part of the Arab world Known as the mediterrian people not black africans
The Sub-Saharan region: Is known as Black Africa in reference to its "black" populations. The term bilâd as-sûdân itself literally translates to "land of the blacks".
Unfortunately, Black Africans made no cultural contributions in Iberia. Black Africans in Spaniard and Lusitanian lands, and in other parts of Europe, were slaves and servants, in great part. That is the sad truth. "Moor" was (and is still today) a very ambiguous term used to describe a number of different peoples, but, predominantly North African types-Berber or Arab. Groups that are Caucasoid/Semetic/Hametic-essentially whites of non-European origin. Of course, the "Moors" did contain black african elements. In the Arab/Berber invasion of Visigothic Iberia (711), there were very small groups of black slaves and servants along with some freedmen. Later on, during the Almoravid advance in the 11th century, blacks from southern Morocco and Senegal were incorported into the fighting force, either as converts to Islam or mercenaries.
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Im afriad black people through out history have always been subjected to slavery by arabs, chinies and Europeans
So this whole Notion that Moors are Black Africans and how Black Africans where the brains behind the Egyption pyramids or that beethoven was black or Hannibal was black is a pure fiction. |
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tee hee, before i go on, this is not an asumption but a plain question.
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Well there are many pictures both artistic representations and actual photo's of black moors, i understand that morroco and that reigion of Africa was during the time of the muslim moors were not run by Black Africans, there is much evidence of Non Black africans being present in that part of Africa for thousands of years, however black people have always populated the north of Africa, Either that or all the rock art depicting black africans from as far back as 8,000 BC,
Without going into it to much the Generals who conquored spain were black moors that were sent to do the work of the sultan's, they also carried out construction work in moor controlled spain, however once moorish spain became desirable, The arab elites traveled to spain to take control and credit for the work that had been done to conquore and build.
but honestly im not going to go into it because I made a promise not to get into who is black and who is not, the moors as a whole were not black however, the term moor has been used for black northern africans far longer than the arab presence in northern africa |
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No im afriad moors never meant black skin.......... if you think about Europs first word for black skin is that infamous word the "N word" which was coined from Romans
The point is this sub sahara africans never conquored spain never invaded europe never lifted Europe out of the Dark ages infact the moors did not left europe out the dark ages if they did we would all be muslims
If I was you do some research on ST Patrick and what gives us ST patricks day and how Ireland saved Europe from the Dark Ages
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What on earth was that all about?????
For one nobody said anything about sub saharan africans. pluss the phrase Sub Saharan, is a term racist anthropologists have turned into a comonley and widley used phrase in order to be able to seperate africans and therfor say that all sub saharans are the real black africans therfor neglect the achivments of other black africans.
North Africa has always had a population of Black africans, nobody said anything about sub saharan africans.
where did i say that Black africans lifted europe out of the dark ages?
Where did i say Moor means Black? the word Moor comes from the country "Mauritania" look up where this country is located, it was "controlled" by morocco but only a centry or two before the word moor was coinded by the greeks in around the late 13 hundreds it was part of the Malian empire, And it's main populouse were more related to west africans than anyone else "at that period of time".
It did not mean black, however it did mean Dark skinned, and later was used to describe all muslims indiscriminantly of skin colour, however it was a term originaly used for dark skinned people and was taken from a region that contained mostly black africans.
You seem to be quite upset at the idea that people of Black or at least Dark skin could have had any influence on Eurpean culture, why? you became very defensive about things that i hadn't even suggested.
However At the time many black people served the arab sultans "not like the chattel slavery of the atlantic trade" but more in a servent manner, also the ranks of their army's were filled with black africans (nobody said anything about sub saharan, though black africans come in all types just like caucasions do) And it was these black african soldiers and generals that were given charge of the invasions and occupation of parts of spain, "why should the sultans and their sons do the hard work when they can send others to do the work for them and then after the work is done come and claim their victorys"
Though I make no claim that the moorish invasions of spain pulled Europe out of the dark ages by it'self, it is safe to say that moorish spain for the most part was the most civilised part of Europe while it was there, also many European customs and ettitquette was taken from moorish spain. Such as using crystal wear at meals "actualy an african custom wich was absorbed into the arab world wich many people now take as an arab custom" the three course meal for example, carpeted floors instead of hey and straw"
to totaly neglect the good influences that moorish culture had on europe is like saying "what did the romans ever do for us?"
and by the way it wasn't the N word that was used and it wasn't coined by the romans either, it was coined by the spanish and the word was N-egro wich means black in spanish and is not a derogotary term, it is the same as saying caucasion, the word your thinking of was coined in the US wich was originaly meant as a derogatery term.
I just noticed where you are posting from, the beautiful South Africa, i hope you do know that South Africa is very famouse for it's propoganda against black history "as a tool to keep those lower unworthy *cough* blacks in place"
i do hope that those brain washing propoganda techniques or any sort of feeling of superiority are not the cause of your post Echo, id like to think that somone who wishes to discuss history in a civilised manner isn't swayed by such ignorence and arogance. |
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Re: Moors............confusion
Oct 15, 2008 7:14 AM
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my friend u need to relax abit....im not attacking u....look i gave a short paragraph for things for u to check out was in a rush i dont have time to sit and write a whole paragraph.
Title of this thread Moors .....confusion.
A) Moors did not rescue europe from the dark ages as most people seem to think.....infact it was the Irish who saved Europe. If all the Moors could offer was 3 caurse meals and cystal wear then damn they where clearly uncivlisied in Europe.
B) Black people have always occupied North Africa = False!
Berbers are prehistoric people of North Africa Berbers, aboriginal Caucasoid peoples of N Africa, called Imazighen in the Tamazight language. They inhabit the lands lying between the Sahara and the Mediterranean Sea and between Egypt and the Atlantic Ocean
C) Please look up Imazighen
D) Sub Saraha = Racist?? (scratching my head on that one) where did u pull that one from thats like saying people of USA are americans therefore im racist and thats a racist thing to say.
E)Saharan rock art = berbers not black (sub Saraha africans)
F) Moors came from Mauretine = correct
G) Moors = black skin which u refer to as dark skin = incorrect reference to hair color not skin color
H)if it comes from africa there for it must be black = false i am a white african born and rasied here.
G) If black africans (sub sarahan africans) have always occupied north africa therefore black africans have always accupied the entire contanent of Africa there for all ancient achievements in africa are black africans = False. If blacks built the pyramids then why dont we see pyramids across africa since they had the culture to build them, just like we see across South America?
have to teach yourself that because it comes from africa there for it is black is silly. fact west africans and east africans and sub sarahan africans and north africans are different race groups they are distinct in origin. its like saying the aboriginies of Austrilia are africans because they black. they not they are a different race group they are distinct in origin.
So to assume that north africans are black or have always belonged to blacks is incorrect
Heres a kicker for you... the bushman? negra or something else? |
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The reason why the term Sub saharan african is racist, is the the way it is used, granted if we were talking purley geography no sub saharan wouldn't be racist, though the term would of been south saharan.
Are black, west, east, south, north, central, africans different races, YES of course they are, infact there are numerouse black races within each region, and the races also cross borders from east to west, from north to south,
What you are implying as that anyone from bellow the saharan, or from west africa, are the only black people, any other people indiginouse to any other area in Africa are NOT black,
P.S. the berbers are not caucasoid, if anything they would be more typical of asiatic folks.
Do i think that there were no other people other than Black people in north africa, no, did i say that anywhere... no. what i did say is black people have always been indiginouse of north africa,. p.s. have a look at the north african rock paintings, the majoirty depict a black race, some of them depict other races however the majority of north african rock are reflect a black populas (not i do not mention sub saharan)
You continualy bring in arguments that i have never even made, such as why arn't there pirimids in other regions of africa,
well if i did make that statment there are two things i could say.
One) there are
two) why didn't other cultures in Europe build, or engineer great feets such as the Romans or Greeks, ohhh, i guess that means that the Greeks or Romans where not really caucasoid, pluss you can see by their curly hair fuller lips and larger noses, along with their darker skin they were really Black people, just of a lighter complexion than theire african counterparts........ How silly does that sound? now you know how you sound
Anybody who has a knowledge of ancient african history (not afrocentric, just basic) that is not based on text books from the 1950's and 60's) will understand why the whoe Sub saharan paradime is flawed - for one the entire term Sub Saharan is outdated, ilogical, biased on the principle that the sahara served as a barrier. Some kind of ancient wall keeping all the peoples of africa seperated from each other.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Especialy since the Sahara was once a flurishing green enviroment encompasing many different peoples "from all the evidence black people" since in this period of history the sahara was populated it cannot be used as an ancient devide.
You may not know this but there are carvings that pre-date dynistic egypt, depicting black people hunting with horse drawn chariots, in lands full of plant life and animals.
this is why i disagree with the term sub saharan because in an ancient context there was no such thing as a saharan divide there for black folk from all over africa were free to travel through the sahara in any direction they decided.
Also the fact that black people have navigated the more recent desert regions of the sahara for ages, and it was these black people who showed the arabs how to navigate the sahara in order to establish the vast trading posts at all sides of africa most notably of the malian empire.
again to the different races, do you class skandinavians, greeks, italians, germanic, spanish, the peoples indiginouse to the british isles, as different races? yes
does that mean that there not white? or caucasion... no
you see you are mistaking somone using the term black, black is a term just like caucasion is, (the term i would prefer to use is not allowed by history channel) you seem to think that the term black means west african, i think you need to realise the flaw in this asumption before you can really understand even the poitns you are trying to make my friend.
Your arguments are very slack Echo, you say such things as, false but do not explain why or how you come to the conclusion they are false.
There is no way on earth you can make an assertation of "black people have never occupied north africa" you COULD say "i have no evidence to suggest black people ever occupied north africa" and even if you said this all you need to do is look at the 10 to 8000 year old rock art in regions all over north africa. And as far as the Moors, all you need to do is look at a photographs of moors from over a hundred years ago.
Black people have not even been confined to africa never mind the north, there have been anciant "black people" who have settled in regions such as iran to india, even accounts of black populations in china and south america (by chinese and south americans)
You seem to have spoken to a few excentric Afrocentrists that have made wild claims about black people along the lines of black people invented the moon, and black civilisations had nuclear technology 8000 years ago, and of the sort and gone allllllll the other way by trying to asume that black people have had no cultural inluence on the world and have never been, traveld or migrated outside there small corner of the world were they remain savage canibals, that the white man has attempted to civilise.
p.s. the reason you were born in Africa (as im sure your aware) is because your ancestors invaded the region, it dosn't make you indiginouse to Africa because you were born there, do i doubt that you are African,,, no, do i think you using im white and i was born in africa as an extreamly silly stetment... yes |
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Oct 23, 2008 2:42 AM
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All you need to know about North Africa http://www.north-of-africa.com
I would suggest learn this first before having a debate with some from africa |
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Oct 27, 2008 9:27 AM
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> All you need to know about North Africa > www.north-of-africa.com > > I would suggest learn this first before having a > debate with some from africa
For somone who tries to seperate North Africa from the rest of Africa you seem like quite the hypocrit to start using "im from africa" being that you are pretty much as far away from north africa as can be. And by your logic of north africans being of european (caucation decent) by your logic id be better place to talk about the North of Africa but lets put all that behind us shall we. Now i thought this discusion was about the moors, so lets get back to that shall we?
Alright so your argument was that there is no such thing as a black moor, where as my argument was based on the fact that the moors were not a racial group and consisted of arabs, berbers (of different races because berber is not a racial group) and Neegro Africans.
Now there is known to be a large migration of neegro africans into portugal between the eighth and thirteenth centuries from the mediterranean basin. This is becase of the BS haplotypes refuring to the sickle cell trait. Now the BS haplotypes of sickle cell are only reflective of one group, neegros.
The same BS haplotype sickle cell trait migrated into portugal again on a noticable scale, but this time after the 15th century (i.e. the atlantic slave trade)
How did this large migration of the BS haplotype sickle cell trait get to portugal between the eighth and thirteenth century being that this is a trait known only to the neegro race, and is identical to the influx during the atlantic slave trade,
If it was mainly caucation's, or even mostly Arab's that populated portugal then then this type of sickle cell would not be the most notable form in the country it would of been the asian or arab haplotype,
oh and by the way before you go of and say that i am lying or i don't know what i am talking about, this from the 1992 edition of the journal "human biology" and the name of the aritcal was "importation route of the sickle cell trait into portugal"
now if this trait got as far as portugal during the migration of the moors into hispanic europe it is also pretty safe to say that it went into spain aswell.
Instead of suggesting i learn from your chosen web sites i suggest you learn to open your mind to the possiblity that neegro's might of possibly achieved more than poughing cotten.
Why does that concept upset you so much?
p.s. if you are taking "all you need to know about north africa" from one web site i suggest you broaden your horizons |
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Oct 27, 2008 9:51 AM
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And by the way Echo Derk, as well as getting your information from more than one source, perhaps you should choose a less obviously biased site to take your studies from,
I mean a french site that has articals on their about the benifits these lowly africans gained from their french colonists isn't exactly a site id that comes accross as objective |
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Facts;
I dont know why the eidtors keep taking of my posts
The Y-DNA Haplogroup T (former K2) Haplogroup J (M304) the pioneered the first neolithic revelotion (humans changed from hunter to settler)
The Y-DNA Haplogroup T (former K2)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/314/5806/1767?rss=1 Sequencing of 81 entire human mitochondrial DNAs (mtDNAs) belonging to haplogroups M1 and U6 reveals that these predominantly North African clades arose in southwestern Asia and moved together to Africa about 40,000 to 45,000 years ago. Their arrival temporally overlaps with the event(s) that led to the peopling of Europe by modern humans and was most likely the result of the same change in climate conditions that allowed humans to enter the Levant, opening the way to the colonization of both Europe and North Africa. Thus, the early Upper Palaeolithic population(s) carrying M1 and U6 did not return to Africa along the southern coastal route of the "out of Africa" exit, but from the Mediterranean area; and the North African Dabban and European Aurignacian industries derived from a common Levantine source.
Haplogroup J (M304) the pioneered the first neolithic revelotion (humans changed from hunter to settler)
http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ta/tad.html
Here: http://www.nativewiki.org/Berber http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Berber-Jews http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Berber-languages Tamazight is a member of the Afro-Asiatic language family (formerly called Hamito-Semitic), along with such languages as Hausa, Hebrew, Arabic, and Maltese.
the moors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsian_culture Morroco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco Algeria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria Tunisia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia
Sequencing of 81 entire human mitochondrial DNAs (mtDNAs) belonging to haplogroups M1 and U6 reveals that these predominantly North African clades arose in southwestern Asia
Lybians = berbers http://www.catchpenny.org/images/seti1a.gif Syrian, Nubian, Libyan, and Egyptian
http://www.north-of-africa.com/IMG/jpg/setis1_grave.jpg
4 berbers, Nubian, Syrian and egyptain
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rossahhill (2 weeks ago) Reply The section on the pineal gland? is fair enough but the brain has many centres, limbic system, optic nerves, pituitary gland, amygdala, brain stem and the lobes. Neurology has proved that 32 different parts of the brain are used just to pick up an object. So it seems likely more than just the pineal gland is involved in drug induced visions. Still its a though provoking piece and the visuals are great.
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Reply You should study logic as your presentation lacks it. Association does not prove influence or direct effect..
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And then there are these things of exquisite beauty by Alan Clarke. Wonderfully evocative. Bright, fun, exciting.
Simple and yet complex. The kind of thing you'd buy and stick on the wall.
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I think Alan is a recent graduate, but I may be wrong. Sadly these posters are only speculative and not actually for the 2012 Olympics. But if someone from Tfl or LOGOC is reading you should give him a call, right now. (Or maybe tomorrow, after the holiday.)
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<3 iDejANCE (1 month ago) Reply this is so hurtful? to watch. omg cmcomins (1 month ago)
Reply yea i took a picture? of this kid. went back to my group and was showing the picture.. then he came running through the crowd. scarred for life.
GOLLUM turtleowens09 (1 month ago) Show Hide -3 Marked as spam Reply "i luv you! hey! i luv you!" - mike he is the anti-christ!!!!? 2012 is amongst us everybody..
i always see this doode near lbj library, say no to drugs!!!!!
GlenTheBeast 9 (1 month ago) Reply us austinites call it 'dillo? dirt, thank you very much. jennbootz349 (1 month ago) Reply hey bored and drinking here im 19 and just? want to get some boondock tonight dreamworld003 (1 month ago) Show Hide -3
Marked as spam Reply Its not Funnier or any thing else its only poority of this child for doing this work. he is not a dancer? or any thing else its only pooooority. he wants money. chels0609 (1 month ago)
Reply omg this? is sooo funny i love micheal Sox Cody (1 month ago) Show Hide +1 Marked as spam Reply its? Gollum
ACL 2009 - Mud People - Sunday - Austin City Limits 2009- Ben Harper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfFT0ijwgn0&feature=related Text Comments (8) Options Loading...adriansanar2 (1 day ago)
Reply Nasty but cool? :D bananahanah425 (2 weeks ago) Reply ya they spent so much time working on getting the grass all nice and then it was ruined but the mud was? a blast to run around in lol geoemrick (1 month ago)
Reply I agree with rise54321. Why are there so many whiny bitchy overgrown babies in the world?
You're having fun playing in the whatever, someone steps into your ring of play, and you see the ones who joined them as the victims?! They JOINED them.
You and your 43 year old whiny ass need to get your 5 foot long snooty nose out of stuff like this? and stop messing everything up for everyone else! Jesus, it's sickening! rise54321 (1 month ago) Show Hide +3
shparkee1 obviously shouldn't have been at this festiva in the first place, with all the icky mud and crazy people ya know.
Go home? and sulk with whtever band you want comfortbaly on your DVD player and satellite tv.
Let the youthful live it up and dont be such an ass.
Shparkee1 (2 months ago) I was right next to those guys..they should be arrested for assault. A couple of those women did not want to? be thrown down and groped in the mud. I hope this is some inciriminating evidence. I personally didn't want Dillo Dirt on face which is where it ended up when one of them scooped it up, ate it and then clapped his hands..idiot!! I moved after that.
hamsteak7 (2 months ago) Did anyone notice the funky way the dirt smelled? Well..it's Dillo Dirt..a manure rich mud mixture. Hope? ya'll washed up! What a great time we all had though!!!
Evil Machines FTP (2 months ago) Reply i was there!! so funny, so? much for grass at zilker park ahah rowsdower23 (2 months ago)
Reply Any one have video of me picking? up all the trash and then tackling a few mud-men?
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Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
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Albert Einstein Quotations Freedom: Albert Einstein Quotations Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom.
Greatness: Albert Einstein Quotations Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
Funny: Albert Einstein Quotations It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer.
Imagination: Albert Einstein Quotations Logics will get you from A to B, imagination will take you everywhere.
Insight: Albert Einstein Quotations Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
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Around 1100BC, sophisticated Phoenicians arrived from what is now Lebanon, Founding settlements established Colonie at Cádiz and Málaga and introducing the concept of Currency.
Greek traders People from Greece established Colonie around 650BC, enjoying a brief period of wealth thanks to Andalucías rich mineral deposits Olives and Grapes, two important crops today, were introduced at this time. The Greeks were soon ousted by the Carthaginians.
People from Carthage (near present day Tunis) Africa in North Africa, who moved in and occupied (Founding settlements established colonie ) most of Andalucía, Spain using the regions mineral wealth to finance a huge military presence. Under the General Hannibal, they prepared to attack Rome but were defeated in the Second Punic War in 214BC. they stayed in Sicily and Southern Itily till today .
The Romans, vandals and visigoths
The Romans, Southern and Northen Itily welcomed by the Andalucían people in 210 BC, after years of oppression & Taxation, begain to build on an unprecedented scale, transforming Andalucía into one of their richest and best organized colonies of Itily, which they called Betis, crisscrossing the region with paved roads.
Roman Slave galleys sailed up its main river, now called the Guadalquivir, as far as Córdoba.
Remnants of which can be seen in the aquaduct of Nerja, the Roman Theatre of Málaga and even in the N340 coastal highway, an early version of which connected Cádiz with Rome.
The region was renamed by the Romans Baetica with Córdoba as its capital and 400 years of prosperity followed during which time the Latin language, Roman law and a form of Christianity became firmly established inforced by death penalty.
The people enjoyed the fruits of a thriving industry in wine, olive oil, wool and grain.
Eventually however the Sypleleti corrupt Roman Empire crumbled and Baetica was invaded by Barbarian German & French Pagan tribes from northern europe. First to arrive in 409AD were the Vandals, who named the area Vandalusia, and shortly afterwards the Visigoths, a Germanic race of so called Aryan Christians ostensibly allied with Rome, who promptly claimed Roman lands for themselves and ruled ruthlesly for 300 years.
The Moors
The Moors, assorted Berber and North African tribes united by their so called Muslim faith, as did Roman Empire earlier, saw the opportunity to move into the still wealthy Vandalusia which they helped create.
In 711AD, under the leadership of Tariq, the then governer of Tangier, a vast Berber Black army crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and forced the Visigoths north into the mountians close to Jerez. Some 800 years of Black Moorish rule followed in the newly named kingdom of al-Andaluz.
The tolerant attitude of the Moors meant that Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in harmony and a period of great wealth and cultural development began anew, during which time the architecture, philosophy and learning developed quickly.
Oranges and peaches were cultivated and ceramics, leather and silverware were crafted.
Rather than destroying what had gone on before them as did the so called Aryan Christians allied with Rome, the Black Moors used Roman buildings as a basis for further development, adding their own style to form the astonishingly beautiful monuments that can be seen today in Córdoba, Granada and Sevilla.
Everything begain to slowly fall apart around the 11th century.
The ruler Abd-ar-Rahman III had established himself in 928 as Caliph of Córdoba but his weaker deckadent Roman like successors let the caliphate disintergrate until 1031AD, when it split up into a series of taifas, small kingdoms which were constantly squabbling.
The Christian armies of Northern Spain moved in and captured the Taifa of Toledo.
The Black Moors had to call for reinforcements, which brought a wave of Islamic fanaticism as the puritanical anti Roman Almoravids from North Africa came into power in 1086. After 60 terrifying years, a more tolerant sect, the Almohads drove them out and set about rebuilding al-Andaluz, only to be defeated themselves by the remnant Spanish Italian German French Christians in 1212, which was the beginning of the end for Black Moorish Spain.
Over the next 290 years the Moorish taifas of al-Andaluz were captured one by one by the Alied Christian forces.
The last enclave, Granada, was conquered in 1492, the same year that Columbus landed in the West Indies bring with him the un precidented Papal Bull he had purchased from Pope Inocent the III propoting to be authored by god himselfe granting rights to all lands pepoles and propperty yet to be "discovered" in the "new Lands this meaant slavery for any "native" persons non christians or christian alike .
The New World had been "discovered" and Spain entered a new era under they dynastic partnership of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, Los Reyes Catolicos, or the Catholic Kings, as the were dubbed by the Pope for a handsom fee.
The History of Spain under Christian rule
Despite promises of religious freedom after the capture of Granada, Ferdinand and Isabella proceeded to persecute the Jews and Muslims, eventually expelling anybody who would not freely convert to Christianity and causing those who had converted to flee in terror leaving there welth to the "crown".
Black Moorish land and possessions were divided among wealthy Christians, creating a system of land ownership which has dogged Andalucía ever since.
While the rest of Spain basked in the glory of overseas conquests and their subsequent wealth, Andalucía deteriated and was subject to frequent Barbary pirate raids.
People fled inland to the Sierras, neglecting the coast which once again became an uncultivated desert.
In 1516 Carlos I, came to the throne a member of the Haspburg dynasty, and was elected, Carlos V, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. During his reign he neglected Spain in favour of Rome and the countries wealth was further drained.
A new inquisition under Felipe II and his successor, Felipe III, led to the final purging of the Muslims and Jews, depriving the country of much skilled intelectual labour.
The Spanish Armada was sunk in 1588 as Felipe II attempted to invade England and expensive forays into the New World forced Spain into further debt.
For the next 200 years, Spain was viewed by the rest of the World as a backward, insignificant place.
The Bourbon dynasty replaced the Spanish Kings during the War of the Spanish Succession and the English took Gibraltar in 1704. Spain fell under the influence of France for nearly 100 years and following the Spanish defeat at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 off the coast of Cadiz, the French proceeded to ransack the country of its wealth and architecural treasures.
The French were finally driven out in the War of Independence in 1814, aided by Britains Duke of Wellington.
Then followed an era of coups and minor civil wars and the American colonies asserted their independence one by one, Cuba being the last to shake off Spanish rule in 1898. Andalucía in the 20th century...
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.– Dwight D. Eisenhower The+internet+is+not+a+human+mind+but+it'll+do. “ The more clearly we can focus our attention on the wonders and realities of the universe around us, the less taste we shall have for destruction. ” —Rachel Carson
The secrit life of plants
Review:The Secret Life of Plants - PESWikiJan 11, 2009 ... The book, The Secret Life of Plants is quite possibly one of the most engrossing books pertaining to biology and symbiotic relationships ...
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The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird; Harper Paperbacks; March 8, 1989 A Stunning Documentation of Plant Sentience
The book, The Secret Life of Plants is quite possibly one of the most engrossing books pertaining to biology and symbiotic relationships between plants and humans ever written.
The book alleges, with convincing proof, that plants can sense the emotions of living things around them, from other plants, to fish and animals, to humans. A lie detector and related apparatus affixed to a plant measures significant responses by the plant to its environment. Positive emotions, negative emotions, intent to harm, pain felt by a separate organism can be "sensed" by the plant, as show by the detector.
Though it starts slow, the documentary movie, produced a decade earlier, in 1979, contains some astonishing ootage of some of these types of experiments.
"I read this book more than a decade ago. It is one of those 'life-changing' books that gives a fundamentally new perspective to the amazing world in which we live. I mark it among the most influential books I've read." -- Sterling D. Allan, CEO, PES Network, Inc. (Jan. 11, 2009)
We list it here at PESWiki for its relevance to the electrical nature of all living things. As we come up with new energy sources, we will need to understand how they interact with living systems, and make sure that they are not detrimental to life.

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By Henry Makow, Ph.D. The headquarters of Islamic terrorism is London England, where the Anglo-American Establishment sponsors the radical "Muslim Brotherhood" in order to advance its long-term goal of plutocratic global dictatorship. These globalists have fabricated a bogus "war on terror" to crush the remaining vestiges of nationalism and democracy in both Muslim countries and the West. Expect more incitements like the current "Miss World " imbroglio to convince both sides the other endangers its way of life. In a comprehensive online report, the perceptive Hawaii-based researcher Peter Goodgame concludes: "Osama bin Laden is not, nor has he ever been, the leader of the international Islamist movement which is directed by the International Muslim Brotherhood." http://www.redmoonrising.com/british911-2.htm Goodgame continues: "Osama bin Laden has been used effectively as a figurehead for the Brotherhood's militant branch to take responsibility for its atrocities, but he is not the mastermind… By the same token, the Muslim Brotherhood is a tool by the British-based Globalists whose main objective is to overthrow the established world order and create a new one-world system of global governance." Goodgame cites former British Intelligence officer, Dr. John Coleman, who says the Muslim Brotherhood is a secret freemason order set up by the great names of British Middle East Intelligence, T.E. Lawrence, Bertrand Russell and St. John Philby to "keep the Middle East backward so its natural resource, oil, could continue to be looted." The Muslim Brotherhood has been used to check nationalist movements led by such figures as Nasser, Bhutto and the Shah of Iran who tried to develop their countries. Without the British, "radical Islam would have remained the illegitimate, repressive minority movement that it has always been, and the Middle East would have remained stable and prosperous," Goodgame says. The Muslim Brotherhood is now a powerful faction in the global oligarchy. Goodgame quotes Robert Drefuss, author of "Hostage to Khomeini" (1980): "The real Muslim Brothers are … the secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchic elite, with smooth business and intelligence associations to the European black nobility and, especially, to the British oligarchy. And the Muslim Brotherhood is money. Together, the Brotherhood probably controls several tens of billions of dollars in immediate liquid assets, and controls billions more in …everything from oil trade and banking to drug-running, illegal arms merchandising, and gold and diamond smuggling. By allying with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Anglo-Americans are not merely buying into a terrorists-for-hire racket; they are partners in a powerful and worldwide financial empire…" By fabricating a bogus war between Islamic fundamentalism and the West, the globalists are able to attack their real enemy, humanity. Pulling the strings, they will ensure that both Western and Muslim states are degraded and finally completely subjugated to their odious rule. The globalists have long been using wars to subvert, demoralize and destroy Western civilization. They backed the Nazis and the Soviets in World War Two. They created the Punch and Judy show that was the Cold War. They tied U.S. hands while backing Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam. Who are they? Also called the illuminati, they represent a recrudescence of the alliance between Rothschild finance and European aristocracy secretly coordinated by a Satanic dogma hidden in freemasonry. http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html They plan a new feudalism that will impoverish the middle classes, depopulate and enslave the masses, and leave only the rich served by a technocracy. The whole world will resemble a repressive third world country governed by the IMF, UN and World Bank. The globalists are headquartered in London and centred on the Rothschild-dominated Bank of England, MI-6 and the secretive Round Table society, which spawned the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The American branches include the Council on Foreign Relations, CIA and the Rockefeller foundations which all ensure the American people continue to finance and enforce one-world tyranny. The Bush family has owed its prominence to this cabal ever since grandfather Prescott Bush helped arrange financing for Nazism. http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm Zionism is supposed to represent the "West" in this sham war with Islam. Americans are being groomed to become like Israelis, victims of daily acts of "Muslim terror." Last week, when another suicide bomber struck in Jerusalem, Benjamin Netanyahu said, "Whether the explosion takes place in Bali, Moscow, New York or Jerusalem we are all united in a war against a common terrorist enemy." According to Swiss journalist Richard Labeviere ("Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam" 2000) radical Islam is an essential "complementary enemy" to Zionism, which also seeks regional hegemony. According to the "Yinon Memorandum" (1982) Israel intends to splinter the Arab countries into several small cantons along ethnic lines. None of these will be able to challenge Israel, which, like the US is a disposable tool of the globalist agenda. (207) The Palestinian terrorist "Hamas" movement is a product of the Muslim Brotherhood. According to Labeviere, it serves the interests of the Israeli right wing, and has received secret financial support from the Israeli "Shin Beth." (203-205). Thus, Palestinian suicide bombers play straight into Ariel Sharon's hand. Meanwhile, back in the USA, "Muslim terrorist attacks" are an excuse to lay the foundations of a police state. These attacks, which could become nuclear or biological, might serve as a pretext to declare martial law, suspend elections and round up dissidents, i.e. anyone who does not buy the lie. This may seem incomprehensible to Americans now when the economy is still being propped up. Once the US has done the globalist's dirty work, interest rates could rise and debt ridden Americans could be stripped of their assets, as they were in the Depression. The Homeland Security Act is designed to control all US law enforcement agencies so that elements in the CIA and Mossad can target Americans with impunity, like they did on Sept. 11. American agencies were designed to remain independent so they could serve as a check on each other. The Act is also designed to allow George W. to place his henchmen in positions of control. Remember, he is a product of a secret Satanic cult, the "Skull and Bones." This sounds gruesome but the Twentieth Century provided many precedents. The illuminati was behind both Nazi and Communist mass slaughter and terror. Our position is akin to the European Jews who disbelieved warnings of the holocaust. There is even a provision in the Homeland Security Act against whistle blowers. Why? Another provision allows mandatory vaccinations while giving vaccine manufacturers immunity from prosecution. Why? The "Total Information Awareness" program will "red flag" troublemakers by monitoring all personal communications and financial transactions, even your library records. You didn't attack the WTC. Why are you targeted? What is the justification for this destruction of freedom, which Bush is sworn to protect? In 14 months since Sept.11, 2001, there has been NOT ONE Muslim terrorist attack in the US despite the bloody American invasion of Afghanistan. If "Al Queda" were capable of pulling off Sept. 11, don't you think it would have planned an encore? Don't get me wrong: I am grateful to the Mossad and CIA for sparing us. But Americans simply don't deserve freedom if they accept this obvious ruse and its ominous consequences. In conclusion, mankind is in the clutches of a diabolical multi generational conspiracy. A Satanic, criminal cartel has subverted all social institutions and is slowly crafting a brutal global dictatorship. Our political and cultural leaders are witting and unwitting puppets. They are fabricating a phony war between Islam and the West in order to subjugate both. I realize this vision seems incredibly bleak. The mass media casts a powerful delusion of normalcy over us. However, expecting the worst means you will never be disappointed. If you are wrong, you are relieved. If you are right, you are prepared. Henry Makow, Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism and the new world order are archived at his web site http://www.savethemales.ca He welcomes feedback at henrym@mts.net CLICK BELOW FOR ADDITIONAL ARTICLES Written by World-Class Author Henry Makow, Ph.D.--Posted 11/26/2002 Click Here For More...NOTE TO THE READER: Headline Articles are contributed to GoOff.com by independent third-parties. 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