A feature length documentary work which presents a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which governs the entire world society. This subject matter will transcend the issues of cultural relativism and traditional ideology and move to relate the core, empirical “life ground” attributes of human and social survival, extrapolating those immutable natural laws into a new sustainable social paradigm called a “Resource-Based Economy”.
"I was pretty tired when I made this one and didnt care what if anything any one thought whrn thet saw it its nothing not about any thing really I meant it as an excersise in blinking out as in death . I do like the dead leaf butterfly that shoots from left to right but it is not a Hendrix Quotation 4 real."
"Tweeking a Lazerpointer pen to deliver a "Sun Tatoo"
Wouldn't that be weird if a person could actually draw on there skin with a light pen or LazerBick and doodle images that looked like "Real Tatoos" would it be made Illeagle to wear a base ball cap that gave the wearer unlimiteg Happy Hormones or Endorphans and it was Solar powered and you could eat it as it was a organig soy plastis like the US Airforce maps except it too was solar powered e-ink and 100% "bio degradable" so logically to conclude that something is good because its natural is not all ways good...
Who wants to line up to be the the next chimp who killed it self by starvation while only pressing on the pleasure button or Kurzweiling itselfe into Obivilion... waching other monkeys dream of wealth and fame though neather are what they clame So if you are tired of Fear as a diet food try Logic.
er Kissinger Rumsfeld Cheney Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski is a Polish American political scientist,
YouTube - John Stockwell on the American Power Structure 11 min - Oct 22, 2009 Uploaded by thefilmarchive Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski (Polish: Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, pronounced [zbiev ... 1928, Warsaw, Poland) is an ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gi0lZ4uB1M
It'd be? great to get an update from John Stockwell today. He'd then have Bill Clinton, while being able to mention Hillary, and Obama; as well as GW Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.
JS may've been slightly wrong in some respects, maybe, but very little compared with being right on target. He was evidently unbiased, non-partisan; except to be partisan for or towards real peace and justice, which are always necessary to be partisan with. Add Phil Agee and Ralph McGehee. Woah. Good education!
mikecorbeil 4 months ago Re. Jimmy Carter, It may've been mentioned it in the full interview, but apparently not in this clip and what I'm referring to are two details:
1) It's during the Carter administration that the US [deliberately] acted to provoke or force Russian military invasion of Afghanistan, to? set Russia up for its own version of "Vietnam" defeat, masterminded by Brzezinski, signed by Carter
2) Carter himself imperialistically declared the US dominant over Middle East oil resources.
Both criminal acts
mikecorbeil 4 months ago Important interview, and the text provided with the video is also important information, but that text doesn't say what is said in the interview and that's what text directly associated with videos should briefly summarize. Additionally but not specifically related information would be better if it was either added after? a summary of what a or the video is about or contains, or provided in a linked article. I agree with the interview and text, but already knew of what the text says.
mikecorbeil 4 months ago The finest corpocratic militocracy that money? can buy.
charliebarosio 4 months ago Does anybody know? where John Stockwell is now?
albdaf 11 months ago @albdaf i was wondering the same thing.
k1a1t1h1y1 11 months ago Reply Share Remove Flag for spam Block User Unblock UserThis has been flagged as spam show hide @albdaf "Does anybody know where John Stockwell is? now?"
I've asked the same question on about ten of these Stockwell videos. No one seems to know for? certain. One person claims Stockwell was killed sometime in the 1990s; another that he passed away of natural causes. If he's alive, he would be in his early seventies now.
bapyou 7 months ago 20 years ago & absolutely everything he says & predicts has come to fruition. We? are plugged into one monstrous, evil Matrix.
localhero101 11 months ago Good job! Interestingly, the cameraman sounds like Studs Terkel!
Iran Iranian oil is partly in Khuzestan, the Arab area of Iran While there are too many variables, it seems unlikely that the US can attack Iran. There is no elasticity in the oil system any more (no one could ramp up production to make up for Iran's shutdown). Iran has a powerful enough military to retaliate in many ways - disrupting oil flows through the Straits of Hormuz is the obvious first step they would probably do. This would mean that the US would be simultaneously attacking western Europe, China, India and other countries dependent on this oil. They're not ready for this ... this isn't a guarantee that this won't happen, but the regime can't do this without triggering a tripwire set there by numerous other countries that need that oil. Plus, the Bush crowd has been doing covert deals with the Iranian regime at least since 1980 (the October Surprise is how the Bush Team got into the White House).
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Iranian oil is partly in Khuzestan, the Arab area of Iran nuclear Iran US - Iran war? related pages
the neo-cons new Middle East map Zbigniew Brzezinski warns US Senate about potential for "terror" event blamed on Iran to trigger a War on Iran the 1980 October Surprise (Bush deal with Iran to delay release of hostages to thwart Carter's re-election) Iran-Contra scandal Petro-Euros vs. Petro-Dollars (Iran wants Euros, not Dollars, for its oil and gas) "The degree to which this President continues to take steps to go to war against Iran without consulting with the full Congress is the degree to which he is increasingly putting himself in jeopardy of an impeachment proceeding." -- Representative Dennis Kucinich http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=56365
Most of Iran's oil is in its the western provinces. The dark green area on the border with Iraq is Khuzestan, a largely Arab area in Iran. (Many Westerners falsely assume that Iran is another Arab country, but it is not majority Arab, and the official language is Persian / Farsi, not Arabic.)
Note the "new Middle East map" floated by prominent warmonger Ralph Peters in Armed Forces Journal in June 2006 would separate the coastal, oil rich provinces of Iran from the rest of that country, including the province of Khuzestan.
James Rosenquist’s heroic-scale composition reflecting his view of America as an obsessive, flawed and self-destructive eden makes him one of my favorite pop artists.
America as an obsessive, flawed and self-destructive eden makes him one of my favorite pop artists. Thursday, November 29, 2007 Product Placement James Rosenquist began his career in art as a billboard painter and in some ways never stopped. Born November 29, 1933, Rosenquist brought the billboard to Pop Art, creating images such as F-111 (above, from 1965) , which measures a whopping 10 by 86 feet, that literally fill entire rooms. In his paintings, Rosenquist generates a collage effect, bringing together such diverse elements of society as a United States military jet, a beauty parlor hair dryer, and spaghetti in an attempt to comment on the commercialization of American life. While Andy Warhol celebrated commercialism by blowing up Campbell’s Soup Cans and Brillo boxes, Rosenquist called it into question by juxtaposing the sleek design of jets dropping bombs with that of the salon hair dryer. In I Love You With My Ford (above, from 1961) Rosenquist takes on the American love affair with the automobile, redefining auto-eroticism. In this sideways triptych, a Ford automobile’s grill ranks at the top of the hierarchy, just above the woman in the middle with her lips sensually parted. The grey tones of these two top panels give way to the reddish orange spaghetti beneath—the mass-produced foodstuff for American bodies swallowed as readily as the claims of the advertising that links cars, along with almost every other product, with sex. Rosenquist enlarges the spaghetti to such a degree that it ceases to be recognizable as food, become instead almost a network of worms writhing unappetizingly. By showing the pyrrhic quality of the spaghetti, Rosenquist hopes we’ll also see the falseness of the American Dream as advertised on TV.
Rosenquist remains active today, still thinking and working big. His Time Dust (above, from 1992) may be the largest print in the world, measuring in at 7 by 35 feet. The difficulty of just finding images of his work that I could post without losing all sense of scale reminded me of the uniqueness of Rosenquist’s work. Some artists work on a grand scale with little ideas, trying to generate the illusion of importance purely by size. Jeff Koons easily falls into that category. The giant works of Rosenquist, however, require a grand scale, just as Michelangelo’s frescos did in the Renaissance. Both artists aimed at nothing less than presenting a world view. Where Michelangelo took from the Bible, Rosenquist took from the modern Bible of advertising, placing products in his personal Last Judgment on American consumerism, dwarfing us in their presence to show just how diminished our individual lives have become in the vast void of materialism.
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Would'nt that be weared if a person could actually draw on there skin with a light pen or Lazer Bick and doodle images that looked like "Real Tatoos" would it be made Illeagle to wear a base ball cap that gave the wearer unlimiteg Happy Hormones or Endorphans and it was Solar powered and you could eat it as it was a organig soy plastis like the US Airforce maps except it too was solar powered e-ink and 100% "bio degradable" so logically to conclude that something is good because its natural is not all ways good...
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Do you think people should be tortured? Could you stand by and watch a person being tortured slowly by fire until they died? What crime would they have to commit, in your opinion, to deserve such a punishment? If you locked someone in a burning room, would that play on your conscience? Some people seem to believe that atheists deserve an infinitely grislier fate than this, simply for doubting the existence of a god that doesn't openly present itself. I've always been curious about that. For anyone confused about the last line, I am referring to phases of non-dreaming sleep. Clearly, dreaming sleep involves a form of consciousness.
@Bishop38f8 You're right, but I think he simply meant that death is analogous to sleep in that, like sleep, you sometimes have no recollection of anything. You just shutdown, as far as you often know.
Of all the questions i can ask to either prove or disprove of god is: if he does exist, why doesn't he present himself before me to acknowledge his own existance? I'm sure some would counter with that the bible is all the proof there is needed, but, whats wrong with a little reassurance? For if people can be saved by believing in his existance and omnipotence, why does he keep us in the dark and have us take a blind guess at finding a way out to salvation?
@Bishop38f8 Your brain keeps working but your conciousness does not, we spend hours asleep at a time with no real recolection past a few scattered dreams
@bheadh by ur rationale, u must beleive I keep a pink unicorn in my yard. just because u havn't been 2 my house doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I know it's life is worth more then nothing. and who's 2 say that existence went from nothing to nowhere any way? what created god? he just always was? he created himself? oh, well then, if he just always was, so 2 could the universe b by ur very own rationale. see, it just doesn't work 2 force things down people's throats with no real evidence
6:54 sleep is not us slippin in2 nothingness. our consciousness undergoes dreams periodically and brain activity never ceases. so sleep and death aren't completely comparable
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Chris Brogan Provides Best Practices and Insights into Social Media From:SAS software Mar 31, 2010 23,593 views http://blogs.sas.com/getgrowkeep SAS' Deb Orton interviews Chris Brogan of New Marketing Labs. Chris discusses the big opportunities for marketers, mistakes that marketers make with social media and how to solve the common marketers' excuse of "I don't have the time."
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For most people trying to install security surveillance cameras on their barn perhaps 1/2 a mile away, you can probably just hack an old Linksys router as a repeater to get the job done or even build a WiFi Cantenna.
But if you want to make a DIY long-range WiFi network like FabFi did in Afghanistan (hooking up literally every village together), you might just want to check out some of their open source instructions on how to do it yourself
Adding a touch-input to your next project can enhance its user experience but did you know that a simple touchpad isn’t rocket science but do-able under budget?
Giorgos Lazaridis shows you (and even shares his circuit diagrams) on how to make such DIY touchpad input device, and believe me, no one wants to push physical buttons these days.
I made this circuit, because i faced several problems with the touch-pad for my keycode doorlock project. I tried many dif
For years, I knew fiber optic cables works by transmitting light (instead of electricity), which travels at speed of light and probably the future of all cables. Well, for those of you who don’t understand the ins and outs of fiber optics, here’s a great demo by the Engineer guy who shows you how light can travel in liquid, similar to how fiber optics work.
Ray Kurzweil: Speaking EaglesTalent.com www.eaglestalent.com/Ray-Kurzweil Book Ray Kurzweil, futurist, author inventor, to speak at your meeting.
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This Ray-Kurzweil spouts off with a supernatural statment which is not only a lame mastabatory fanticy it smacks of Nazi 4th Rickkey trickey Bull Shit "HIS DELUSION OF GRANDURE" (living to rave on for 700 pluss years) that is, without dealing with the precondetions of any reality and jerkingoff forever looking at pictures insted of holding hands with the wet dream first at least?
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Ray Kurzweil: Speaking EaglesTalent.com www.eaglestalent.com/Ray-Kurzweil Book Ray Kurzweil, futurist, author inventor, to speak at your meeting.
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WHY NOT FINANCE Ray-Kurzweil & HIS DELUSION OF GRANDURE (living to rave on for 700 plus years) BY BUYING HIS BOOK OR DVD?
WHY FINANCE Ray-Kurzweil AND HIS DELUSION OF GRANDEUR BY BUYING HIS BOOK OR DVD.
This could be poetry. Does Sorose believe Kurzweil who believes Brockman who believe Brezinsky who believes Kissinger who believed Mengela who belived Ford who believed Hitler who believed Luther who believed the Popes.
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mudcat.org: Lyr Req: Quality of Mercy?? mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=73072 - Cached 9 posts - 3 authors - Last post: Sep 11, 2010 The koala tea of Mercy is not strained. That's the punch line ! ... This friend told him that he had heard of a tea brewed in a small town in the Outback named Mercy. ... made from koala bear hairs that would cure him. ... Anyone here had to recite?? - Dec 14, 2009 Jokes turned into songs...? - Jun 2, 2009 More results from mudcat.org »
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Everything we do is significant no matter how small or large it may seem.
The gyre was discovered by US sea captain Charles Moore in 1997. The problem was largely ignored until now as the Island has doubled in size.
Moore and his Algalita Foundation have dedicated their time and resources to understanding and looking for solutions to this problem. He is quite certain there are more patches out there.
The problem is indeed a huge one in the scheme of things. The wild life that thrives on the plankton in the area is ingesting the plastic and contaminating the stomach space that should be used for food for chicks. Turtles are choking on plastic bags. Sea Turtles are amazingly beautiful creatures and I
wasn’t aware, until I read the Metro article, that they are responsible for helping to keep tropical beaches free of deadly box jellyfish which are toxic to humans but the Turtles are unaffected by their sting.
So for those of us who love to visit tropical beaches and swim in the warm ocean currents please think of this the next time you go to the grocery store and forget your reusable non-plastic bag.
Everything we do is significant no,matter how small or large it may seem.
In an answer Yes, as a matter of fact, there is so much in the universe that really the starwars film can well be fact rather than fiction, except for the sound effects <grin>
Some 3 million worlds in this galaxy alone with life, and say some 300 thousand with civilizations, and some 3 thousand with space travel, again just in this Galaxy.
With all of the known galaxies that works out to some 2-3 million worlds, plus or minus a factor of 100.
However, interesting fact there are some 3 trillion so called life worlds in the universe, and in all of that there is still only one us. Very Cool!
"I don't know what weapons World War Three will be fought with, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein
"the Third World War has already started--a silent war, not for that reason any the less sinister. This war is tearing down Brazil, Latin America and practically all the Third World. Instead of soldiers dying there are children, instead of millions of wounded there are millions of unemployed; instead of destruction of bridges there is the tearing down of factories, schools, hospitals and entire economies .... It is a war by the United States against the Latin American continent and the Third World. It is a war over the foreign debt, one which has as its main weapon interest, a weapon more deadly than the atom bomb, more shattering than a laser beam." -- Brazilian President Luiz Ignácio Lula da Silva (Lula), comment from 1989 when he was a labor leader and leading dissident in Brazil
World War II was also an oil war
World War II was in many ways an oil war - the US was able to wage the war because the American oil industry had recently reached the peak of domestic oil discoveries and had enough oil to wage global war.
In contrast, Germany, Italy and Japan do not have oil, and eventually ran out of fuel to power their war machines - a primary reason they lost.
Japan seized oil fields in Indonesia, but when they were driven out they lost much of their oil supply for their military imperialist expansion, and the US naval blockade of Japan ensured their defeat.
Germany tried to capture the rich oil fields of the Caucausus, but after the Stalingrad battle (on the way to the Caucaucus region), it was clear that the Nazi mechanized military would lose the war.
"Hitler and Goering had counted on the new jet fighters driving the Allied air forces from the skies, and well they might have -- for the Germans succeeded in producing more than a thousand of them -- had the Anglo-American flyers, who lacked this plane, not taken successful counteraction. The conventional Allied fighter was no match for the German jet in the air, but few ever got off the ground. The refineries producing the special fuel for them were bombed and destroyed and the extended runways which had to be constructed for them were easily detected by Allied pilots, who destroyed the jets on the ground." -- William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (1962), pp. 1426-7
Next on the hit list: Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Korea?
A good simulation of the likely outcome of the US attack on Iraq - chaos in the Middle East, and more www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml (requires "flash" plug in for your browser)
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,928010,00.html Straw: UK will not attack Syria or Iran Wednesday April 2, 2003 Britain would have "nothing whatever" to do with military action against Syria or Iran, the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, signalled today.
Practice to Deceive Chaos in the Middle East is not the Bush hawks' nightmare scenario--it's their plan. www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html In their view, invasion of Iraq was not merely, or even primarily, about getting rid of Saddam Hussein. Nor was it really about weapons of mass destruction, though their elimination was an important benefit. Rather, the administration sees the invasion as only the first move in a wider effort to reorder the power structure of the entire Middle East.
www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0304/S00044.htm Is The Iraq War The Beginning Of World War IV? SCOOP EDITOR'S NOTE: The following report from CNN is chilling in its audacity. Ex-CIA Director James Woolsey is a Bush insider who is tipped to become the overseer of Iraq once this war is over. Here Woolsey openly talks of a much bigger war, what he calls World War IV. While there is nothing particularly new about Woolsey's statement, a large number of Neoconservative nutter friends of the Bush Administration have been saying similar things for at least a decade (and Scoop has been reporting this for several months), what is truly shocking is the openness of the declaration contained in this story. Here we see the gloves of the American Imperialist agenda well and truly taken off.
Ex-CIA director: U.S. faces 'World War IV' From Charles Feldman and Stan Wilson CNN Thursday, April 3, 2003 Posted: 5:02 PM EST (2202 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Former CIA Director James Woolsey said Wednesday the United States is engaged in World War IV, and that it could continue for years. In the address to a group of college students, Woolsey described the Cold War as the third world war and said "This fourth world war, I think, will last considerably longer than either World Wars I or II did for us. Hopefully not the full four-plus decades of the Cold War." Woolsey has been named in news reports as a possible candidate for a key position in the reconstruction of a postwar Iraq. He said the new war is actually against three enemies: the religious rulers of Iran, the "fascists" of Iraq and Syria, and Islamic extremists like al Qaeda. ....
"As we move toward a new Middle East," Woolsey said, "over the years and, I think, over the decades to come ... we will make a lot of people very nervous." It will be America's backing of democratic movements throughout the Middle East that will bring about this sense of unease, he said. "Our response should be, 'good!'" Woolsey said. Singling out Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the leaders of Saudi Arabia, he said, "We want you nervous. We want you to realize now, for the fourth time in a hundred years, this country and its allies are on the march and that we are on the side of those whom you -- the Mubaraks, the Saudi Royal family -- most fear: We're on the side of your own people."
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. -- George Orwell, 1984
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do. -- Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
"What's happening with Iraq is not isolated, it's part of a global phenomenon. When we see the installation of U.S. military bases throughout Latin America, when we look at [American interference] in countries such as Venezuela and Colombia and Panama, we have to ask ourselves what's going on. "Lots of people think it and won't say it, but I will say it: The United States is seeking to control the world. That's why we are seeing the reaction in so many countries." -- Nobel Peace Prize laureate (1980) Adolfo Perez Esquivel www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0314-01.htm
Published on Saturday, September 6, 2003 by the Globe & Mail/Canada The Fourth World War For two years, the U.S. has pursued the culprits behind the 9/11 atrocities with a vengeance that has shocked and awed ally and enemy alike. But even the devastating attacks on the Afghan and Iraqi regimes don't illustrate the true scope of the campaign, DOUG SAUNDERS reports. While everyone was preoccupied with the fireworks, Washington has quietly deployed thousands of agents in a secretive struggle that may last a lifetime
by Doug Saunders
The guys in the sunglasses have a name for this not-so-secret campaign. They call it World War Four, an unofficial title that is now used routinely by top officials and ground-level operatives in the U.S. military and the CIA. It is a global war, one of the most expensive and complex in world history.
"And do not forget the petty scoundrels in this regime; note their names, so that none will go free! They should not find it possible, having had their part in these abominable crimes, at the last minute to rally to another flag and then act as if nothing had happened!" - from the fourth leaflet of the anti-Nazi resistance, The White Rose, 1942.
Among those wise enough to know America is in one and has been for some time, there's disagreement over which World War George Bush is actually waging. Should we call it number III? Or was that the Cold War, and now we're at number IV and counting? ("This is World War IV" is the favoured construct of the neoconservatives. See, for instance, such bloody-minded idealogues as John Woolsey and Norman Podhoretz. I imagine at some point they determined that decades of association with nuclear apocalypse had voided the potential positive spin for "World War III.") So which World War is it? It's neither the Third nor the Fourth; it's still the Second. Even though the apologists of the Pirate Class in their red, white and blue shirts will never own the name "fascist." As Orwell wrote in Politics and the English Language, "the word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something not desirable.'" But that's no reason for us to shy from using it. Just because goosestepping has gone out of style doesn't mean they've kicked off their jackboots. When we talk about Nazis in America, we're talking about more than the more than passing resemblance to the Bush Cartel. That Prescott's family business profited handsomely by the Nazis is well known, at least by those who think it important to note such things. But the story is larger and uglier than more dirty dealings by a Bonesman. It also goes deeper than the Republican Party's active recruitment of fascists and racists since the mid-50s through the aegis of its Heritage Groups Council, but since that's seldom recalled, let's pause for a moment to recollect. When a number of senior members of George HW Bush's 1988 campaign team were revealed to be old school Nazi sympathizers it generated something of a media flap - Pete Hamill titled a New York Post column "George Bush and his fascist fan club" - but the scandal is little remembered today.
Some of Bush's team:
Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust denier, Austin App. Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush." Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa. Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer. Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime. Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi groups. Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish wartime pogroms. Nazis staffing the VP's campaign? Oops! Tut tut tut. We need to run better background checks, wink wink.
The Nazi infection goes back much further. All the way back to the 1930s, when industrialists with fascist sympathies and names like DuPont and Morgan sponsored a coup against Roosevelt to dismantle the New Deal. And then the '40s, when men with names like Bush, Dulles, Favish and Rockefeller traded strategic goods with the enemy, prolonging the war and costing Allied lives. Worst of all, Project Paperclip saw Nazis virtually co-found the "National Security State," bringing their advanced technology and criminal medical research to America. And something else as well, as Nick Cook is told by the pseudonymous "Dr Dan Markus" in The Hunt for Zero Point:
When the Americans tripped over this mutant strain of nonlinear physics and took it back home with them, they were astute enough to realize that their home-grown scientific talent couldn't handle it. That it was beyond their cultural term of reference. That's why they recruited so many Germans. The Nazis developed a unique approach to science and engineering quite separate from the rest of the world, because their ideology, unrestrained as it was, supported a wholly different way of doing things. Von Braun's V-2s are a case in point, but so was their understanding of physics. The trouble was, when the Americans took it all home with them they found out, too late, that it came infected with a virus. You take the science on, you take on aspects of the ideology, as well.
The Nazi virus entered America's system long ago. It's been Americanized. But what else would one expect, given the CIA was essentially a co-creation of Nazis like General Reinhard Gehlen and his Abwehr anti-Soviet intelligence apparatus and Nazi money launderers like Allen Dulles and the corporatist/intelligence old boy network of Sullivan and Cromwell. No. Such men got exactly what they expected. "Once the neo-fascists became bold enough to slay the President on the street, they showed their hand," Mort Sahl said early in 1968. So early Dr King and Robert Kennedy were yet to join the body count. "They showed how arrogant they had become. Now it's a question of symptom. That crime was a national symptom. If we can turn our back on that, we will pay a terrible price. That will be the end of this democracy." They showed their hand, and they've had forty years of getting away with it. And not for lack of evidence. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't read Fonzi's The Last Investigation, Russell's The Man Who Knew Too Much or Newman's Oswald and the CIA, to cite just three works. Rather, they got away with it because the truth is too terrible, and many who did not conspire in the killing conspired in the cover-up because they were led to believe that a finding of official complicity in Kennedy's death would shatter the system, when in fact it might have killed the virus. And undoubtedly the same justification has been used over and over again, to shield Americans from the awful truth of state-sanctioned assassinations, the October Surprise, medical experiments worthy of Mengele, the introduction of crack to the LA underclass, BCCI, 9/11 and on and on. High treason, many times over. But so what? You know what they say about none daring to call it such should it prosper. And brother, has it prospered. Here's the thing: we're not talking about discrete, singular, sui generis conspiracies here. Indeed, these are not even conspiracies, in the sense of representing aberrant breaks with the system. These are, rather, examples that the system works. It's just not the system Americans were taught in civics class. The examples evidence the criminalization of the state by the deep political nexus of underworld, intelligence, industrial and military interests. "America," to these players, serves as the legit front for their lawless enterprise. The Nazi virus has consumed the host. If it were eradicated and the host miraculously recovered, the poor thing would swear up and down it was still late Autumn, 1963.
Few have said it yet. Somebody needs to. We are on the verge of WWIII. The signs are here. Armies massing in a tinderbox around the oil fields of the Mideast. Armies massing on the India-Pakistan border, another flash point in the world. Amidst a war of words that has ended in war before, the two sides are sending each other's diplomats home. North Korea is busily turning its nuclear facilities to the sincere task of creating enriched uranium for nuclear missiles. America the just has seen the rise to power of a dangerously misdirected mind, amidst an election sham, while US Senate power balance changes due to airplanes falling out of the sky, electronic ballot machines whose code is posted on unsecured servers, and vituperative character attacks against decent men and women seeking office for the good of the majority. That government has now turned bellicose, a dangerous development considering the awesome military hardware it commands. Secret plans have been unearthed in the past forty-eight hours to further attenuate the rights of US citizens, including secret arrests and seizure of property; detention without counsel and without notification (disappearances); even plans to expunge the citizenship of anyone caught in a "terrorist" organization, where the government defines what a terrorist organization is. All with no recourse to the courts. And war. Every tyrannical and totalitarian regime needs war. They will say they don't want world war, but world war consolidates and perpetuates their grip on power. World war breaks out easily from a major confrontation as that in Iraq. As the major war transfixes the world, myriad minor ones break out, as nations use the cover of the big events in Iraq and India and Korea to settle scores elsewhere. China will wait until the USA is war-weary, and will then strike Taiwan/Formosa to "reunite" them to mainland China. Nukes will be used in WWIII. There are too many of these terrible weapons stockpiled around the world to be secure. Some fool will unleash them, and once he does, all bets are off. Retaliations and counter-retaliations will wreck large sections of the biosphere. Isn't it terribly ironic that the world survived the prospect of nuclear annihilation in the cold war, only to see it ignite in the remote and historically less significant places of the world? For forty years US and USSR nuclear arsenals aimed at every major population center on two continents stood ready to launch. And for forty years diplomacy and spying kept the giants respectful of each other. Now the fear is that a desperate rogue state backed into a corner will set one or two off. And what is US diplomacy doing? Backing these states into a corner. Under the cloak of world war our enemies will find a way to deliver, and ignite, a nuclear warhead on our soil. These enemies will not rest until they have delivered this nuclear reaction to what they see as US imperialism. Only by extraordinary, police-state laws and enforcement can the wartime government "protect" the people. They will eliminate, in fact already have eliminated, many freedoms. If you disagree with them on any level they will monitor your phone calls and emails. If you persist in your dissent they will arrest, detain and deport you. Ultimately, they will execute their political enemies under the same confusion, blood, and death of the wars they so desperately need to cover their failed attempts to govern a peaceful nation peacefully. The intentions of the US government are not, in fact peaceful. Bush is an oil man placed into power by oil interests. The strategic prize is the Iraqi oilfields. Yet as a domestic political matter, only by war and the accompanying smoke, fog, and confusion of war can the Bush men consolidate their extremely tenuous grip on control over their "homeland." War provides them the necessary cover. The fear that war brings overwhelms the resistance by a people who feel powerless in the face of rapidly changing, overwhelming history. But when the smoke clears -- and it will clear -- the United State will be dishonored. The dishonor will not arise from the policies of this misguided administration, but will be pointed at us, the American people. All of us. Just like Nazi Germany, where the signs of a rise to power of a depraved and dangerous element were unmistakable, the signs are here as well, to anyone careful enough to read them. The Germans resist this war because they know all too well the dire consequences that are in store. There is no beer-hall putsch as in Munich. But there is a national election that saw tens, if not hundreds of thousands of voters disenfranchised in one state. Electronic voting machines were almost certainly tampered with in certain elections. A virtual news blackout exists in the mainstream media of any developments critical of the ruling elite. A President is put into office through campaign promises and slogans that are outright lies. His government may have impeded an investigation that would have forewarned the nation of 9/11. The appointed government, with a shaky electoral mandate, has embarked on a war that is unsupported at home, and vigorously rejected abroad: They assemble a massive army *before* trying diplomacy, to start the war anyway. Polite congressmen try to pressure the government subtly to stand down, expecting they will as reason says they must. And yet like Germany in 1932 the intelligentsia, the press, and the rest of government grossly miscalculates the depravity of the situation. They will realize, only too late, they are dealing with a far greater, far more dangerous situation than they ever dreamed. They are dealing with a ruling faction that intends to rewrite the rules to an extent that nobody ever dared think possible in the USA. Part of that new set of rules involves war. It doesn't matter that the world condemns it. It won't matter if a million people march in New York City on February 15. Once the fog of war settles in, none of that will matter. Once the guns begin to roar, the Bush Cartel, as it's been called, will write the dark history.
World War II was in many ways an oil war - the US was able to wage the war because the American oil industry had recently reached the peak of domestic oil discoveries and had enough oil to wage global war.
In contrast, Germany, Italy and Japan do not have oil, and eventually ran out of fuel to power their war machines - a primary reason they lost.
Japan seized oil fields in Indonesia, but when they were driven out they lost much of their oil supply for their military imperialist expansion, and the US naval blockade of Japan ensured their defeat.
Germany tried to capture the rich oil fields of the Caucausus, but after the Stalingrad battle (on the way to the Caucaucus region), it was clear that the Nazi mechanized military would lose the war.
"Hitler and Goering had counted on the new jet fighters driving the Allied air forces from the skies, and well they might have -- for the Germans succeeded in producing more than a thousand of them -- had the Anglo-American flyers, who lacked this plane, not taken successful counteraction. The conventional Allied fighter was no match for the German jet in the air, but few ever got off the ground. The refineries producing the special fuel for them were bombed and destroyed and the extended runways which had to be constructed for them were easily detected by Allied pilots, who destroyed the jets on the ground." -- William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (1962), pp. 1426-7 http://www.oilempire.us/worldwar4.html
Donald Rumsfeld's nuclear deals with North Korea - How Rumsfeld Filled His Pockets with Pyongyang's Nuclear Loot
Swing Blades Rumsfeld Filled His Pockets with Pyongyang's Nuclear Loot By CHRIS FLOYD
It's a well-known fact--oft detailed in this column--that the boys in the Bush Regime swing both ways. We speak, of course, of their proclivity--their apparently uncontrollable craving--for stuffing their trousers with loot from both sides of whatever war or military crisis is going at the moment.
That's why it came as no surprise to read last week that just before he joined the Regime's crusade against evildoers everywhere (especially rogue states that pursue the development of terrorist-ready weapons of mass destruction), Pentagon warlord Donald Rumsfeld was trousering the proceeds from a $200 million deal to send the latest nuclear technology--including plenty of terrorist-ready "dirty bomb" material--to the rogue state of North Korea, Neue Zurcher Zeitung reports.
In 1998, Rumsfeld was citizen chairman of the Congressional Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, charged with reducing nuclear proliferation. Rumsfeld and the Republican-heavy commission came down hard on the deal Bill Clinton had brokered with North Korea to avert a war in 1994: Pyongyang would give up its nuclear weapons program in exchange for normalized relations with the United States, plus the construction of two non-weaponized nuclear plants to generate electricity. The plants were to be built by an international consortium of government-backed business interests called KEDO.
Rum deal, said Rummy: those nasty Northies would surely turn the peaceful nukes to nefarious ends. What's more, even the most innocuous nuclear plant generates mounds of radioactive waste that could be made into "dirty bombs"--hand-carried weapons capable of killing thousands of people. The agreement was big bad juju that threatened the whole world, Rumsfeld declared.
Of course, that didn't prevent him from trying to profit from it. Even while he chairing commission meetings on the "dire threat" posed by the Korean program, Rumsfeld was junketing to Zurich for board meetings of the Swiss-based energy technology giant, ABB, where he was a top director. And what was ABB doing at the time? Why, negotiating that $200 million deal with North Korea to provide equipment and services for the KEDO nuclear reactors, of course!
Yes, nuclear proliferation is ugly stuff--but you might as well squeeze a few dollars from it, right? A smart guy always plays the angles--and, as the hero-worshiping American media never stop telling us, Rumsfeld is one smart guy.
In fact, he's so smart that he's now playing dumb. A Pentagon spokesman says Rumsfeld "can't recall" discussing the Korean deal at ABB board meetings. And his erstwhile ABB corporate colleagues say that it's possible the subject never came up. Of course it didn't; going into the nuclear business with a Communist tyranny that very nearly launched a nuclear war against the West just four years before, in a deal that involved high-level negotiations with the governments of the United States, South Korea, Japan and the European Union--that's certainly the kind of thing that would be handled by a couple of junior executives in a branch office somewhere. Nothing for the bigwigs--especially hard-wired government players like Rumsfeld--to trouble their pretty heads about. A perfectly reasonable explanation.
And so Rumsfeld joins the roster of Bush Regime multimillionaires who once trumpeted their "business savvy" as selling points for their right to national leadership but now claim to have been "hands-off" figureheads who had no idea what their companies were up to. Bush, in his sinkhole of insider trading and stockholder scamming at Harken; Cheney, making fat deals with Saddam Hussein (yes, after the Gulf War) and muddying up the corporate books at Halliburton; Army Secretary Thomas White, gaming the power grid and stealing millions for Enron in the manufactured California "energy crisis"--all of them went from mighty moguls to mere "front men" the instant their corruption was brought to light. None of it was their fault; nothing ever is.
Whatever happened to Bush's much-trumpeted "era of responsibility?" These guys are not only chiselers, hustlers, hypocrites and war profiteers--they're a bunch of gutless wonders as well. So you'll pardon us if we are just the tiniest bit cynical about the "moral arguments for war" and other such buckets of warm spit this gang is now forcing down the world's throat.
Postscript 1: Losing the Plot And what became of that 1994 pact with North Korea? UN inspectors entered the country to make sure the weapons program was put on ice. Pyongyang signed a number of lucrative deals with various politically-connected Western firms, like ABB, to build the promised energy plants, while waiting for the normalization of relations with the United States to begin--a move which most observers thought would set North Korea on a course toward China-style "moderation" of its monolithic regime.
But normalization never came. Clinton, pressured by rightwing forces (such as Rumsfeld's commission) who opposed any truck whatsoever with godless commies, did his usual folding number, with much windy suspiration of forced breath--and no action. The KEDO companies pocketed Pyongyang's cash but dithered about the actual construction. Pyongyang--while not exactly a font of smiling cooperation itself--concluded that the pact was being deep-sixed. This suspicion was confirmed when Bush took office, calling Korean leader Kim Jong Il a "pygmy" and declaring the county part of the "Axis of Evil."
Pyongyang then accelerated its weapons program, kicked out the UN inspectors, and is now threatening to unleash a nuclear war if Bush, a la Iraq, makes a "pre-emptive strike."
A dicey situation, sure--but at least Don Rumsfeld made some money out of it.
Postscript 2: Red Don Rising The Korean caper was not the first time Rummy signed up for both teams, of course. There is the little matter of his former financial tryst with the leaders of Communist China -a most Bushian affair, featuring ruling family members profiting from Daddy's government power.
It happened on this wise. A few months after Rumsfeld joined the Bush Regime stable, the American master of war bagged an estimated $500,000 by cashing in his joint investment with Jiang Mianheng, son of former Chinese president Jiang Zemin. The pair had been partnered in Shanghai's Red Flag Software, which is used by the godless Chinese commies to, er, block attempts by American spies to penetrate Beijing's computer networks. Naturally, Red Rum was not bothered by these national security considerations--not when there was easy money to be had.
Politically-Connected Insiders of the World, Unite!
Chris Floyd is a columnist for the Moscow Times and a regular contributor to CounterPunch. He can be reached at: cfloyd72@hotmail.com
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Subject: $4 Trillion Hole: Wolfowitz "Iraqi oil money would pay for the reconstruction of the country...."
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"Piss in my ear and tell me it’s raining who said this? Is there a high ground why are the troupes stacked out where they are easily shot at from above from mountain tops by enemy combatants shouldn't us troupes controlthe high ground (mountain tops)?don't we have an air force and night goggles and long distance microwave able to fry the eyeballs in there heads from 3 football field's away with our own daisy cutter bouncing betty toys. this war stinks like tax and spend republican southern munitions manufactures wanting and willing to cull the us working class as cannon fodder.Who said this?
Subject: $4 trillion hole: Wolfowitz "Iraqi oil money would pay for the reconstruction of the country...."
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Why Cities Keep Growing, Corporations and People Always Die, and Life Gets Faster
Now listening to Geoffrey West. It’s heady. City planners need to get to know Geoffrey West’s work. He makes the case (through proofs) that cities function like biological organisms. Just as an organism scales up, it becomes more efficient and long lived. Same for cities. His data points are length of roads, utlity wires, pace of walking, number of gas stations, and hundreds more. In every city he can calculate the how big the city is just by looking at one or three of these data points. The number of gas stations, for example, decreases as a city’s population increases. The pace of walking increases in scale with city size. The bigger the city, the higher the wages, etc.
Just as a cells and capillaries function in all animals, despite their differences in shape (whale vs mouse), cities function in nearly exactly the same way, too. Santa Fe may be very different than NYC, but they function exactly the same way. He compares his analysis to fractals, where the elements of some thing are mathematically predictable, but it’s form is not.
OK, so, this leads to the issues of resource overconsumption and the slowed pace of technological innovation, both of which need to keep pace with these scales of growth, but are not. In other words, he’s discovered the formula for human collapse. Confused? Grab a cup of tea and watch.
The great thing about cities, the thing that is amazing about cities is as they grow, so to speak, their dimensionality increases. That is, the space of opportunity, the space of functions, the space of jobs just continually increases. And the data shows that. If you look at job categories, it continually increases. I’ll use the word “dimensionality.” It opens up. And in fact, one of the great things about cities is that it supports crazy people. You walk down Fifth Avenue, you see crazy people. There are always crazy people. Well, that’s good. Cities are tolerant of extraordinary diversity. …
This is in complete contrast to companies. The Google boys in the back garage so to speak with ideas of the search engine, were no doubt promoting all kinds of crazy ideas and maybe having even crazy people around them.
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This entry was posted in Planetary Consciousness, The Effects of Plastic in Our Society and tagged captain charles, Charles Moore, environment, floating island, fluid medium, gyre, Island of Plastic in the Pacific, london newspapers, north pacific ocean, ocean pollution, Pacific garbage patch, patio chairs, plastic buckets, shoe soles, storm drains. Bookmark the permalink. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.
Everything we do is significant no matter how small or large it may seem.
The gyre was discovered by US sea captain Charles Moore in 1997. The problem was largely ignored until now as the Island has doubled in size.
Moore and his Algalita Foundation have dedicated their time and resources to understanding and looking for solutions to this problem. He is quite certain there are more patches out there.
The problem is indeed a huge one in the scheme of things. The wild life that thrives on the plankton in the area is ingesting the plastic and contaminating the stomach space that should be used for food for chicks. Turtles are choking on plastic bags. Sea Turtles are amazingly beautiful creatures and I
wasn’t aware, until I read the Metro article, that they are responsible for helping to keep tropical beaches free of deadly box jellyfish which are toxic to humans but the Turtles are unaffected by their sting.
So for those of us who love to visit tropical beaches and swim in the warm ocean currents please think of this the next time you go to the grocery store and forget your reusable non-plastic bag.
Everything we do is significant no,matter how small or large it may seem.
In an answer Yes, as a matter of fact, there is so much in the universe that really the starwars film can well be fact rather than fiction, except for the sound effects <grin>
Some 3 million worlds in this galaxy alone with life, and say some 300 thousand with civilizations, and some 3 thousand with space travel, again just in this Galaxy.
With all of the known galaxies that works out to some 2-3 million worlds, plus or minus a factor of 100.
However, interesting fact there are some 3 trillion so called life worlds in the universe, and in all of that there is still only one us. Very Cool!
Rumsfeld Filled His Pockets with Pyongyang's Nuclear Loot
By CHRIS FLOYD
It's a well-known fact--oft detailed in this column--that the boys in the Bush Regime swing both ways. We speak, of course, of their proclivity--their apparently uncontrollable craving--for stuffing their trousers with loot from both sides of whatever war or military crisis is going at the moment.
That's why it came as no surprise to read last week that just before he joined the Regime's crusade against evildoers everywhere (especially rogue states that pursue the development of terrorist-ready weapons of mass destruction), Pentagon warlord Donald Rumsfeld was trousering the proceeds from a $200 million deal to send the latest nuclear technology--including plenty of terrorist-ready "dirty bomb" material--to the rogue state of North Korea, Neue Zurcher Zeitung reports.
In 1998, Rumsfeld was citizen chairman of the Congressional Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, charged with reducing nuclear proliferation. Rumsfeld and the Republican-heavy commission came down hard on the deal Bill Clinton had brokered with North Korea to avert a war in 1994: Pyongyang would give up its nuclear weapons program in exchange for normalized relations with the United States, plus the construction of two non-weaponized nuclear plants to generate electricity. The plants were to be built by an international consortium of government-backed business interests called KEDO.
Rum deal, said Rummy: those nasty Northies would surely turn the peaceful nukes to nefarious ends. What's more, even the most innocuous nuclear plant generates mounds of radioactive waste that could be made into "dirty bombs"--hand-carried weapons capable of killing thousands of people. The agreement was big bad juju that threatened the whole world, Rumsfeld declared.
Of course, that didn't prevent him from trying to profit from it. Even while he chairing commission meetings on the "dire threat" posed by the Korean program, Rumsfeld was junketing to Zurich for board meetings of the Swiss-based energy technology giant, ABB, where he was a top director. And what was ABB doing at the time? Why, negotiating that $200 million deal with North Korea to provide equipment and services for the KEDO nuclear reactors, of course!
Yes, nuclear proliferation is ugly stuff--but you might as well squeeze a few dollars from it, right? A smart guy always plays the angles--and, as the hero-worshiping American media never stop telling us, Rumsfeld is one smart guy.
In fact, he's so smart that he's now playing dumb. A Pentagon spokesman says Rumsfeld "can't recall" discussing the Korean deal at ABB board meetings. And his erstwhile ABB corporate colleagues say that it's possible the subject never came up. Of course it didn't; going into the nuclear business with a Communist tyranny that very nearly launched a nuclear war against the West just four years before, in a deal that involved high-level negotiations with the governments of the United States, South Korea, Japan and the European Union--that's certainly the kind of thing that would be handled by a couple of junior executives in a branch office somewhere. Nothing for the bigwigs--especially hard-wired government players like Rumsfeld--to trouble their pretty heads about. A perfectly reasonable explanation.
And so Rumsfeld joins the roster of Bush Regime multimillionaires who once trumpeted their "business savvy" as selling points for their right to national leadership but now claim to have been "hands-off" figureheads who had no idea what their companies were up to. Bush, in his sinkhole of insider trading and stockholder scamming at Harken; Cheney, making fat deals with Saddam Hussein (yes, after the Gulf War) and muddying up the corporate books at Halliburton; Army Secretary Thomas White, gaming the power grid and stealing millions for Enron in the manufactured California "energy crisis"--all of them went from mighty moguls to mere "front men" the instant their corruption was brought to light. None of it was their fault; nothing ever is.
Whatever happened to Bush's much-trumpeted "era of responsibility?" These guys are not only chiselers, hustlers, hypocrites and war profiteers--they're a bunch of gutless wonders as well. So you'll pardon us if we are just the tiniest bit cynical about the "moral arguments for war" and other such buckets of warm spit this gang is now forcing down the world's throat.
Postscript 1: Losing the Plot And what became of that 1994 pact with North Korea? UN inspectors entered the country to make sure the weapons program was put on ice. Pyongyang signed a number of lucrative deals with various politically-connected Western firms, like ABB, to build the promised energy plants, while waiting for the normalization of relations with the United States to begin--a move which most observers thought would set North Korea on a course toward China-style "moderation" of its monolithic regime.
But normalization never came. Clinton, pressured by rightwing forces (such as Rumsfeld's commission) who opposed any truck whatsoever with godless commies, did his usual folding number, with much windy suspiration of forced breath--and no action. The KEDO companies pocketed Pyongyang's cash but dithered about the actual construction. Pyongyang--while not exactly a font of smiling cooperation itself--concluded that the pact was being deep-sixed. This suspicion was confirmed when Bush took office, calling Korean leader Kim Jong Il a "pygmy" and declaring the county part of the "Axis of Evil."
Pyongyang then accelerated its weapons program, kicked out the UN inspectors, and is now threatening to unleash a nuclear war if Bush, a la Iraq, makes a "pre-emptive strike."
A dicey situation, sure--but at least Don Rumsfeld made some money out of it.
Postscript 2: Red Don Rising The Korean caper was not the first time Rummy signed up for both teams, of course. There is the little matter of his former financial tryst with the leaders of Communist China -a most Bushian affair, featuring ruling family members profiting from Daddy's government power.
It happened on this wise. A few months after Rumsfeld joined the Bush Regime stable, the American master of war bagged an estimated $500,000 by cashing in his joint investment with Jiang Mianheng, son of former Chinese president Jiang Zemin. The pair had been partnered in Shanghai's Red Flag Software, which is used by the godless Chinese commies to, er, block attempts by American spies to penetrate Beijing's computer networks. Naturally, Red Rum was not bothered by these national security considerations--not when there was easy money to be had.
Politically-Connected Insiders of the World, Unite!
Chris Floyd is a columnist for the Moscow Times and a regular contributor to CounterPunch. He can be reached at: cfloyd72@hotmail.com
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Money cant buy peace of mind or love... Trust yourselfe...
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Chris Brogan Provides Best Practices and Insights into Social MediaFrom: SAS software Mar 31, 2010 23,593 views http://blogs.sas.com/getgrowkeep SAS' Deb Orton interviews Chris Brogan of New Marketing Labs. Chris discusses the big opportunities for marketers, mistakes that marketers make with social media and how to solve the common marketers' excuse of "I don't have the time."
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Get, Grow, Keep - Successful Customer Intelligence ... - SAS blogs blogs.sas.com/getgrowkeep/index.php?/authors/5-John-Balla - Cached Matt Fulk of SAS talks about preference centers in a recent article in B2B Magazine: ... and proactive web chat. http://blogs.sas.com/getgrowkeep/index.php? ... Get, Grow, Keep - Successful Customer Intelligence ... - SAS blogs blogs.sas.com/getgrowkeep/index.php?/authors/10-Deb-Orton - Cached Blogs Get, Grow, Keep · Get, Grow, Keep - Successful Customer Intelligence ... (more info) View comments, related videos, and more
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Everything we do is significant no matter how small or large it may seem.
The gyre was discovered by US sea captain Charles Moore in 1997. The problem was largely ignored until now as the Island has doubled in size.
Moore and his Algalita Foundation have dedicated their time and resources to understanding and looking for solutions to this problem. He is quite certain there are more patches out there.
The problem is indeed a huge one in the scheme of things. The wild life that thrives on the plankton in the area is ingesting the plastic and contaminating the stomach space that should be used for food for chicks. Turtles are choking on plastic bags. Sea Turtles are amazingly beautiful creatures and I
wasn’t aware, until I read the Metro article, that they are responsible for helping to keep tropical beaches free of deadly box jellyfish which are toxic to humans but the Turtles are unaffected by their sting.
So for those of us who love to visit tropical beaches and swim in the warm ocean currents please think of this the next time you go to the grocery store and forget your reusable non-plastic bag.
Everything we do is significant no,matter how small or large it may seem.
In an answer Yes, as a matter of fact, there is so much in the universe that really the starwars film can well be fact rather than fiction, except for the sound effects <grin>
Some 3 million worlds in this galaxy alone with life, and say some 300 thousand with civilizations, and some 3 thousand with space travel, again just in this Galaxy.
With all of the known galaxies that works out to some 2-3 million worlds, plus or minus a factor of 100.
However, interesting fact there are some 3 trillion so called life worlds in the universe, and in all of that there is still only one us. Very Cool!
"I don't know what weapons World War Three will be fought with, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein
"the Third World War has already started--a silent war, not for that reason any the less sinister. This war is tearing down Brazil, Latin America and practically all the Third World. Instead of soldiers dying there are children, instead of millions of wounded there are millions of unemployed; instead of destruction of bridges there is the tearing down of factories, schools, hospitals and entire economies .... It is a war by the United States against the Latin American continent and the Third World. It is a war over the foreign debt, one which has as its main weapon interest, a weapon more deadly than the atom bomb, more shattering than a laser beam." -- Brazilian President Luiz Ignácio Lula da Silva (Lula), comment from 1989 when he was a labor leader and leading dissident in Brazil
World War II was also an oil war
World War II was in many ways an oil war - the US was able to wage the war because the American oil industry had recently reached the peak of domestic oil discoveries and had enough oil to wage global war.
In contrast, Germany, Italy and Japan do not have oil, and eventually ran out of fuel to power their war machines - a primary reason they lost.
Japan seized oil fields in Indonesia, but when they were driven out they lost much of their oil supply for their military imperialist expansion, and the US naval blockade of Japan ensured their defeat.
Germany tried to capture the rich oil fields of the Caucausus, but after the Stalingrad battle (on the way to the Caucaucus region), it was clear that the Nazi mechanized military would lose the war.
"Hitler and Goering had counted on the new jet fighters driving the Allied air forces from the skies, and well they might have -- for the Germans succeeded in producing more than a thousand of them -- had the Anglo-American flyers, who lacked this plane, not taken successful counteraction. The conventional Allied fighter was no match for the German jet in the air, but few ever got off the ground. The refineries producing the special fuel for them were bombed and destroyed and the extended runways which had to be constructed for them were easily detected by Allied pilots, who destroyed the jets on the ground." -- William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (1962), pp. 1426-7
Next on the hit list: Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Korea?
A good simulation of the likely outcome of the US attack on Iraq - chaos in the Middle East, and more www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml (requires "flash" plug in for your browser)
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,928010,00.html Straw: UK will not attack Syria or Iran Wednesday April 2, 2003 Britain would have "nothing whatever" to do with military action against Syria or Iran, the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, signalled today.
Practice to Deceive Chaos in the Middle East is not the Bush hawks' nightmare scenario--it's their plan. www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html In their view, invasion of Iraq was not merely, or even primarily, about getting rid of Saddam Hussein. Nor was it really about weapons of mass destruction, though their elimination was an important benefit. Rather, the administration sees the invasion as only the first move in a wider effort to reorder the power structure of the entire Middle East.
www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0304/S00044.htm Is The Iraq War The Beginning Of World War IV? SCOOP EDITOR'S NOTE: The following report from CNN is chilling in its audacity. Ex-CIA Director James Woolsey is a Bush insider who is tipped to become the overseer of Iraq once this war is over. Here Woolsey openly talks of a much bigger war, what he calls World War IV. While there is nothing particularly new about Woolsey's statement, a large number of Neoconservative nutter friends of the Bush Administration have been saying similar things for at least a decade (and Scoop has been reporting this for several months), what is truly shocking is the openness of the declaration contained in this story. Here we see the gloves of the American Imperialist agenda well and truly taken off.
Ex-CIA director: U.S. faces 'World War IV' From Charles Feldman and Stan Wilson CNN Thursday, April 3, 2003 Posted: 5:02 PM EST (2202 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Former CIA Director James Woolsey said Wednesday the United States is engaged in World War IV, and that it could continue for years. In the address to a group of college students, Woolsey described the Cold War as the third world war and said "This fourth world war, I think, will last considerably longer than either World Wars I or II did for us. Hopefully not the full four-plus decades of the Cold War." Woolsey has been named in news reports as a possible candidate for a key position in the reconstruction of a postwar Iraq. He said the new war is actually against three enemies: the religious rulers of Iran, the "fascists" of Iraq and Syria, and Islamic extremists like al Qaeda. ....
"As we move toward a new Middle East," Woolsey said, "over the years and, I think, over the decades to come ... we will make a lot of people very nervous." It will be America's backing of democratic movements throughout the Middle East that will bring about this sense of unease, he said. "Our response should be, 'good!'" Woolsey said. Singling out Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the leaders of Saudi Arabia, he said, "We want you nervous. We want you to realize now, for the fourth time in a hundred years, this country and its allies are on the march and that we are on the side of those whom you -- the Mubaraks, the Saudi Royal family -- most fear: We're on the side of your own people."
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. -- George Orwell, 1984
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do. -- Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
"What's happening with Iraq is not isolated, it's part of a global phenomenon. When we see the installation of U.S. military bases throughout Latin America, when we look at [American interference] in countries such as Venezuela and Colombia and Panama, we have to ask ourselves what's going on. "Lots of people think it and won't say it, but I will say it: The United States is seeking to control the world. That's why we are seeing the reaction in so many countries." -- Nobel Peace Prize laureate (1980) Adolfo Perez Esquivel www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0314-01.htm
Published on Saturday, September 6, 2003 by the Globe & Mail/Canada The Fourth World War For two years, the U.S. has pursued the culprits behind the 9/11 atrocities with a vengeance that has shocked and awed ally and enemy alike. But even the devastating attacks on the Afghan and Iraqi regimes don't illustrate the true scope of the campaign, DOUG SAUNDERS reports. While everyone was preoccupied with the fireworks, Washington has quietly deployed thousands of agents in a secretive struggle that may last a lifetime
by Doug Saunders
The guys in the sunglasses have a name for this not-so-secret campaign. They call it World War Four, an unofficial title that is now used routinely by top officials and ground-level operatives in the U.S. military and the CIA. It is a global war, one of the most expensive and complex in world history.
"And do not forget the petty scoundrels in this regime; note their names, so that none will go free! They should not find it possible, having had their part in these abominable crimes, at the last minute to rally to another flag and then act as if nothing had happened!" - from the fourth leaflet of the anti-Nazi resistance, The White Rose, 1942.
Among those wise enough to know America is in one and has been for some time, there's disagreement over which World War George Bush is actually waging. Should we call it number III? Or was that the Cold War, and now we're at number IV and counting? ("This is World War IV" is the favoured construct of the neoconservatives. See, for instance, such bloody-minded idealogues as John Woolsey and Norman Podhoretz. I imagine at some point they determined that decades of association with nuclear apocalypse had voided the potential positive spin for "World War III.") So which World War is it? It's neither the Third nor the Fourth; it's still the Second. Even though the apologists of the Pirate Class in their red, white and blue shirts will never own the name "fascist." As Orwell wrote in Politics and the English Language, "the word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something not desirable.'" But that's no reason for us to shy from using it. Just because goosestepping has gone out of style doesn't mean they've kicked off their jackboots. When we talk about Nazis in America, we're talking about more than the more than passing resemblance to the Bush Cartel. That Prescott's family business profited handsomely by the Nazis is well known, at least by those who think it important to note such things. But the story is larger and uglier than more dirty dealings by a Bonesman. It also goes deeper than the Republican Party's active recruitment of fascists and racists since the mid-50s through the aegis of its Heritage Groups Council, but since that's seldom recalled, let's pause for a moment to recollect. When a number of senior members of George HW Bush's 1988 campaign team were revealed to be old school Nazi sympathizers it generated something of a media flap - Pete Hamill titled a New York Post column "George Bush and his fascist fan club" - but the scandal is little remembered today.
Some of Bush's team:
Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust denier, Austin App. Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush." Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa. Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer. Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime. Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi groups. Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish wartime pogroms. Nazis staffing the VP's campaign? Oops! Tut tut tut. We need to run better background checks, wink wink.
The Nazi infection goes back much further. All the way back to the 1930s, when industrialists with fascist sympathies and names like DuPont and Morgan sponsored a coup against Roosevelt to dismantle the New Deal. And then the '40s, when men with names like Bush, Dulles, Favish and Rockefeller traded strategic goods with the enemy, prolonging the war and costing Allied lives. Worst of all, Project Paperclip saw Nazis virtually co-found the "National Security State," bringing their advanced technology and criminal medical research to America. And something else as well, as Nick Cook is told by the pseudonymous "Dr Dan Markus" in The Hunt for Zero Point:
When the Americans tripped over this mutant strain of nonlinear physics and took it back home with them, they were astute enough to realize that their home-grown scientific talent couldn't handle it. That it was beyond their cultural term of reference. That's why they recruited so many Germans. The Nazis developed a unique approach to science and engineering quite separate from the rest of the world, because their ideology, unrestrained as it was, supported a wholly different way of doing things. Von Braun's V-2s are a case in point, but so was their understanding of physics. The trouble was, when the Americans took it all home with them they found out, too late, that it came infected with a virus. You take the science on, you take on aspects of the ideology, as well.
The Nazi virus entered America's system long ago. It's been Americanized. But what else would one expect, given the CIA was essentially a co-creation of Nazis like General Reinhard Gehlen and his Abwehr anti-Soviet intelligence apparatus and Nazi money launderers like Allen Dulles and the corporatist/intelligence old boy network of Sullivan and Cromwell. No. Such men got exactly what they expected. "Once the neo-fascists became bold enough to slay the President on the street, they showed their hand," Mort Sahl said early in 1968. So early Dr King and Robert Kennedy were yet to join the body count. "They showed how arrogant they had become. Now it's a question of symptom. That crime was a national symptom. If we can turn our back on that, we will pay a terrible price. That will be the end of this democracy." They showed their hand, and they've had forty years of getting away with it. And not for lack of evidence. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't read Fonzi's The Last Investigation, Russell's The Man Who Knew Too Much or Newman's Oswald and the CIA, to cite just three works. Rather, they got away with it because the truth is too terrible, and many who did not conspire in the killing conspired in the cover-up because they were led to believe that a finding of official complicity in Kennedy's death would shatter the system, when in fact it might have killed the virus. And undoubtedly the same justification has been used over and over again, to shield Americans from the awful truth of state-sanctioned assassinations, the October Surprise, medical experiments worthy of Mengele, the introduction of crack to the LA underclass, BCCI, 9/11 and on and on. High treason, many times over. But so what? You know what they say about none daring to call it such should it prosper. And brother, has it prospered. Here's the thing: we're not talking about discrete, singular, sui generis conspiracies here. Indeed, these are not even conspiracies, in the sense of representing aberrant breaks with the system. These are, rather, examples that the system works. It's just not the system Americans were taught in civics class. The examples evidence the criminalization of the state by the deep political nexus of underworld, intelligence, industrial and military interests. "America," to these players, serves as the legit front for their lawless enterprise. The Nazi virus has consumed the host. If it were eradicated and the host miraculously recovered, the poor thing would swear up and down it was still late Autumn, 1963.
Few have said it yet. Somebody needs to. We are on the verge of WWIII. The signs are here. Armies massing in a tinderbox around the oil fields of the Mideast. Armies massing on the India-Pakistan border, another flash point in the world. Amidst a war of words that has ended in war before, the two sides are sending each other's diplomats home. North Korea is busily turning its nuclear facilities to the sincere task of creating enriched uranium for nuclear missiles. America the just has seen the rise to power of a dangerously misdirected mind, amidst an election sham, while US Senate power balance changes due to airplanes falling out of the sky, electronic ballot machines whose code is posted on unsecured servers, and vituperative character attacks against decent men and women seeking office for the good of the majority. That government has now turned bellicose, a dangerous development considering the awesome military hardware it commands. Secret plans have been unearthed in the past forty-eight hours to further attenuate the rights of US citizens, including secret arrests and seizure of property; detention without counsel and without notification (disappearances); even plans to expunge the citizenship of anyone caught in a "terrorist" organization, where the government defines what a terrorist organization is. All with no recourse to the courts. And war. Every tyrannical and totalitarian regime needs war. They will say they don't want world war, but world war consolidates and perpetuates their grip on power. World war breaks out easily from a major confrontation as that in Iraq. As the major war transfixes the world, myriad minor ones break out, as nations use the cover of the big events in Iraq and India and Korea to settle scores elsewhere. China will wait until the USA is war-weary, and will then strike Taiwan/Formosa to "reunite" them to mainland China. Nukes will be used in WWIII. There are too many of these terrible weapons stockpiled around the world to be secure. Some fool will unleash them, and once he does, all bets are off. Retaliations and counter-retaliations will wreck large sections of the biosphere. Isn't it terribly ironic that the world survived the prospect of nuclear annihilation in the cold war, only to see it ignite in the remote and historically less significant places of the world? For forty years US and USSR nuclear arsenals aimed at every major population center on two continents stood ready to launch. And for forty years diplomacy and spying kept the giants respectful of each other. Now the fear is that a desperate rogue state backed into a corner will set one or two off. And what is US diplomacy doing? Backing these states into a corner. Under the cloak of world war our enemies will find a way to deliver, and ignite, a nuclear warhead on our soil. These enemies will not rest until they have delivered this nuclear reaction to what they see as US imperialism. Only by extraordinary, police-state laws and enforcement can the wartime government "protect" the people. They will eliminate, in fact already have eliminated, many freedoms. If you disagree with them on any level they will monitor your phone calls and emails. If you persist in your dissent they will arrest, detain and deport you. Ultimately, they will execute their political enemies under the same confusion, blood, and death of the wars they so desperately need to cover their failed attempts to govern a peaceful nation peacefully. The intentions of the US government are not, in fact peaceful. Bush is an oil man placed into power by oil interests. The strategic prize is the Iraqi oilfields. Yet as a domestic political matter, only by war and the accompanying smoke, fog, and confusion of war can the Bush men consolidate their extremely tenuous grip on control over their "homeland." War provides them the necessary cover. The fear that war brings overwhelms the resistance by a people who feel powerless in the face of rapidly changing, overwhelming history. But when the smoke clears -- and it will clear -- the United State will be dishonored. The dishonor will not arise from the policies of this misguided administration, but will be pointed at us, the American people. All of us. Just like Nazi Germany, where the signs of a rise to power of a depraved and dangerous element were unmistakable, the signs are here as well, to anyone careful enough to read them. The Germans resist this war because they know all too well the dire consequences that are in store. There is no beer-hall putsch as in Munich. But there is a national election that saw tens, if not hundreds of thousands of voters disenfranchised in one state. Electronic voting machines were almost certainly tampered with in certain elections. A virtual news blackout exists in the mainstream media of any developments critical of the ruling elite. A President is put into office through campaign promises and slogans that are outright lies. His government may have impeded an investigation that would have forewarned the nation of 9/11. The appointed government, with a shaky electoral mandate, has embarked on a war that is unsupported at home, and vigorously rejected abroad: They assemble a massive army *before* trying diplomacy, to start the war anyway. Polite congressmen try to pressure the government subtly to stand down, expecting they will as reason says they must. And yet like Germany in 1932 the intelligentsia, the press, and the rest of government grossly miscalculates the depravity of the situation. They will realize, only too late, they are dealing with a far greater, far more dangerous situation than they ever dreamed. They are dealing with a ruling faction that intends to rewrite the rules to an extent that nobody ever dared think possible in the USA. Part of that new set of rules involves war. It doesn't matter that the world condemns it. It won't matter if a million people march in New York City on February 15. Once the fog of war settles in, none of that will matter. Once the guns begin to roar, the Bush Cartel, as it's been called, will write the dark history.
World War II was in many ways an oil war - the US was able to wage the war because the American oil industry had recently reached the peak of domestic oil discoveries and had enough oil to wage global war.
In contrast, Germany, Italy and Japan do not have oil, and eventually ran out of fuel to power their war machines - a primary reason they lost.
Japan seized oil fields in Indonesia, but when they were driven out they lost much of their oil supply for their military imperialist expansion, and the US naval blockade of Japan ensured their defeat.
Germany tried to capture the rich oil fields of the Caucausus, but after the Stalingrad battle (on the way to the Caucaucus region), it was clear that the Nazi mechanized military would lose the war.
"Hitler and Goering had counted on the new jet fighters driving the Allied air forces from the skies, and well they might have -- for the Germans succeeded in producing more than a thousand of them -- had the Anglo-American flyers, who lacked this plane, not taken successful counteraction. The conventional Allied fighter was no match for the German jet in the air, but few ever got off the ground. The refineries producing the special fuel for them were bombed and destroyed and the extended runways which had to be constructed for them were easily detected by Allied pilots, who destroyed the jets on the ground." -- William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (1962), pp. 1426-7 http://www.oilempire.us/worldwar4.html
Donald Rumsfeld's nuclear deals with North Korea - How Rumsfeld Filled His Pockets with Pyongyang's Nuclear Loot
Swing Blades Rumsfeld Filled His Pockets with Pyongyang's Nuclear Loot By CHRIS FLOYD
It's a well-known fact--oft detailed in this column--that the boys in the Bush Regime swing both ways. We speak, of course, of their proclivity--their apparently uncontrollable craving--for stuffing their trousers with loot from both sides of whatever war or military crisis is going at the moment.
That's why it came as no surprise to read last week that just before he joined the Regime's crusade against evildoers everywhere (especially rogue states that pursue the development of terrorist-ready weapons of mass destruction), Pentagon warlord Donald Rumsfeld was trousering the proceeds from a $200 million deal to send the latest nuclear technology--including plenty of terrorist-ready "dirty bomb" material--to the rogue state of North Korea, Neue Zurcher Zeitung reports.
In 1998, Rumsfeld was citizen chairman of the Congressional Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, charged with reducing nuclear proliferation. Rumsfeld and the Republican-heavy commission came down hard on the deal Bill Clinton had brokered with North Korea to avert a war in 1994: Pyongyang would give up its nuclear weapons program in exchange for normalized relations with the United States, plus the construction of two non-weaponized nuclear plants to generate electricity. The plants were to be built by an international consortium of government-backed business interests called KEDO.
Rum deal, said Rummy: those nasty Northies would surely turn the peaceful nukes to nefarious ends. What's more, even the most innocuous nuclear plant generates mounds of radioactive waste that could be made into "dirty bombs"--hand-carried weapons capable of killing thousands of people. The agreement was big bad juju that threatened the whole world, Rumsfeld declared.
Of course, that didn't prevent him from trying to profit from it. Even while he chairing commission meetings on the "dire threat" posed by the Korean program, Rumsfeld was junketing to Zurich for board meetings of the Swiss-based energy technology giant, ABB, where he was a top director. And what was ABB doing at the time? Why, negotiating that $200 million deal with North Korea to provide equipment and services for the KEDO nuclear reactors, of course!
Yes, nuclear proliferation is ugly stuff--but you might as well squeeze a few dollars from it, right? A smart guy always plays the angles--and, as the hero-worshiping American media never stop telling us, Rumsfeld is one smart guy.
In fact, he's so smart that he's now playing dumb. A Pentagon spokesman says Rumsfeld "can't recall" discussing the Korean deal at ABB board meetings. And his erstwhile ABB corporate colleagues say that it's possible the subject never came up. Of course it didn't; going into the nuclear business with a Communist tyranny that very nearly launched a nuclear war against the West just four years before, in a deal that involved high-level negotiations with the governments of the United States, South Korea, Japan and the European Union--that's certainly the kind of thing that would be handled by a couple of junior executives in a branch office somewhere. Nothing for the bigwigs--especially hard-wired government players like Rumsfeld--to trouble their pretty heads about. A perfectly reasonable explanation.
And so Rumsfeld joins the roster of Bush Regime multimillionaires who once trumpeted their "business savvy" as selling points for their right to national leadership but now claim to have been "hands-off" figureheads who had no idea what their companies were up to. Bush, in his sinkhole of insider trading and stockholder scamming at Harken; Cheney, making fat deals with Saddam Hussein (yes, after the Gulf War) and muddying up the corporate books at Halliburton; Army Secretary Thomas White, gaming the power grid and stealing millions for Enron in the manufactured California "energy crisis"--all of them went from mighty moguls to mere "front men" the instant their corruption was brought to light. None of it was their fault; nothing ever is.
Whatever happened to Bush's much-trumpeted "era of responsibility?" These guys are not only chiselers, hustlers, hypocrites and war profiteers--they're a bunch of gutless wonders as well. So you'll pardon us if we are just the tiniest bit cynical about the "moral arguments for war" and other such buckets of warm spit this gang is now forcing down the world's throat.
Postscript 1: Losing the Plot And what became of that 1994 pact with North Korea? UN inspectors entered the country to make sure the weapons program was put on ice. Pyongyang signed a number of lucrative deals with various politically-connected Western firms, like ABB, to build the promised energy plants, while waiting for the normalization of relations with the United States to begin--a move which most observers thought would set North Korea on a course toward China-style "moderation" of its monolithic regime.
But normalization never came. Clinton, pressured by rightwing forces (such as Rumsfeld's commission) who opposed any truck whatsoever with godless commies, did his usual folding number, with much windy suspiration of forced breath--and no action. The KEDO companies pocketed Pyongyang's cash but dithered about the actual construction. Pyongyang--while not exactly a font of smiling cooperation itself--concluded that the pact was being deep-sixed. This suspicion was confirmed when Bush took office, calling Korean leader Kim Jong Il a "pygmy" and declaring the county part of the "Axis of Evil."
Pyongyang then accelerated its weapons program, kicked out the UN inspectors, and is now threatening to unleash a nuclear war if Bush, a la Iraq, makes a "pre-emptive strike."
A dicey situation, sure--but at least Don Rumsfeld made some money out of it.
Postscript 2: Red Don Rising The Korean caper was not the first time Rummy signed up for both teams, of course. There is the little matter of his former financial tryst with the leaders of Communist China -a most Bushian affair, featuring ruling family members profiting from Daddy's government power.
It happened on this wise. A few months after Rumsfeld joined the Bush Regime stable, the American master of war bagged an estimated $500,000 by cashing in his joint investment with Jiang Mianheng, son of former Chinese president Jiang Zemin. The pair had been partnered in Shanghai's Red Flag Software, which is used by the godless Chinese commies to, er, block attempts by American spies to penetrate Beijing's computer networks. Naturally, Red Rum was not bothered by these national security considerations--not when there was easy money to be had.
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Chris Floyd is a columnist for the Moscow Times and a regular contributor to CounterPunch. He can be reached at: cfloyd72@hotmail.com
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The Information below will help you make the correct decision when purchasing Rechargeable batteries. Please contact us if you have any questions or comments. Battery Definitions Ni-Cd – Nickel Cadmium batteries are an older technology; however they have some very good characteristics. These batteries have a longer shelf life as they do not discharge as quickly as NiMH batteries after being charged. Using today’s battery charger technology these batteries are quicker to charge as they have a lower capacity. These batteries typically will give you around 500 life cycles. The price is very attractive and they are perfect for low drainage devices. The down side to these batteries is that they have a “Memory Effect”. This effect will occur if you partially use the battery and then charge it. This will cause the battery to have fewer life cycles. If you discharge the battery before using it, then this problem will not occur. Nicad batteries are still very popular in cordless phones, RC vehicles, solar lights, remote controls, clocks, hand held radios and much more.
Ni-MH – Nickel Metal Hydride is a newer battery technology. Many of the old Nicd batteries are now available in NiMH. These batteries have a much higher capacity then Nicd, so your device will have a much longer run time in between charges. NiMH batteries do not have a “Memory effect” so you can charge them even if they have only been used a bit. They are more expensive then Ni-CD, however you can typically get around 1000 life cycles. These batteries are also more environmentally friendly as they have nothing harmful in them. They are best used in high draining devices; Digital Cameras, Children’s toys, Walkmans, Discmans, Cellular phones, flash lights and more.
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Amp Hours (Ah) – Refers to the amperage – the strength of the electrical current expressed in amperes that the battery can hold. The higher the Ah, the longer the battery will last in-between charges (See mAh Below). Capacity – Measured in Amp Hours (Ah) or Milliamp Hours and is the amount of time the battery can supply the necessary voltage. Cell – One individual battery.
Charge – With the use of a charger, charging a battery will insert energy into it.
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Milliamp Hours (mAh) – Applies to how much energy the battery can store (capacity of the battery). The higher the mAh, the longer the battery will last before needing to be charged. One mAh is the equivalent to 1/1000 Amps. IE: 2.5 Ah = 2500 mAh.
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Unfortunately, this kind of shenanigans does not surprise me in the least bit.
A majority of people probably would not even look at the voltage when purchasing batteries. Its either A, AA, C, or D and I don't think I would notice either!
Great job corporate Amerika, another job well done .
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 07:31 PM by DocMoreau While I can see how someone might feel this is a scam, but the rechargeable battery states right on the side "2500mAh". As far as I know all rechargable batterys use this rating system to designate how much 'charge' they hold. The AAAs in my cordless phone are like 2900mAhs or something. The cell size there seems to be the standard size of a rechargable that you would find in a cordless drill battery pack... Its not like it is a hearing aid battery inside.
Perhaps what makes this feel like a scam is the fact that most humans equate size with effectiveness. An C cell won't properly fit in the space that a device that needs a D cell, so they used an adapter to make it fit. I agree that since we are conditioned that way, that it seems unfair in this case. I equate it to buying a 256MB sdcard, only to find it is a 256MB microsd, with adapter. Then you realize that you should have gotten a 1GB, find out that you have been 'swindled' and complain that you don't have the storage you wish you did.
I recommend anyone interested in rechargeable batteries to goto a battery specialty store, and ask as many questions as you can, especially if you are thinking of buying 'brand name' rechargable cells. You maybe pleasantly surprised at the help, and the better charge for your buck. Then again, I might be lucky.
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Another link with step by step photo instructions @ Instructables I especially like the 9 volt hack as well, but couldn't find it...
I also recommend that website: www.instructables.com... for all you "do-it-your-selfers". Lots of fun projects to do at home for little money. Enjoy! DocMoreau
[edit:metacafe video did not embed, so added photo from instructables, video is at both links]
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 07:45 PM by Indy Originally posted by Extralien Just found this and i think it is an absolute outrage as to the tricks these big companies are up to.
This will go down as one of my all time favorite threads on ATS. This is a conspiracy by Energizer to defraud customers by basically repacking an AA battery as a D. I hope everyone shares this thread with their friends. Maybe the press gets wind and it generates enough negative PR that Energizer is forced to react.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:06 PM by DocMoreau reply to post by Indy
I disagree. That is not a AA cell. That is a SUB-C sized cell used in Rechargeable battery packs. It is rated at a AA rating, so Energizer is not doing anyone a favor. I found 8 10,000mAh D sized cells at Batteryspace.com for around 60bucks. Most people are not willing to pay 8 bucks a battery though.
I do agree that Energizer is trying to milk as much cash out of us cows as they can.
The Rabbit is a big Pink Liar DocMoreau
PS... Maybe one of our electronics wiz-types can explain the mAh rating, I have no idea, (micro Amps per Hour?) and what a 'traditional' disposable battery's rating is, something like 1200mAh, I think.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:19 PM by thebeard Originally posted by Extralien
If 1 battery takes approximately 30 minutes to charge, what is the electrical power usage to charge the battery. Multiply that by however many batteries of the same size and storage capacity and, lets say the maximum charegable life of 1000 charges and you may find your electric bill might cost more than buying disposables.
Perhaps someone can be so kind to get some figures for that.
I'll try my hand at the math, It's actually pretty easy to figure out how much various electronics around your house cost to use but it's been a while since I've done it. I did this last in a college TV course where the assignment was to figure out how much you would pay to leave a tv on year round vs other appliances. Neat experiment, tv's came out on top most of the time.
Every piece of electronic gear should have a little plate or sticker that tells you a few things, the voltage, amps used, and/or watts used. If the piece of gear only lists the amps not the watts you can simply multiply the Amps by the Volts and that = watts.
Now turn those watts into killowatts since killowatt hours is what the power company bills you by: 1kW = 1000W so divide the wattage by 1000. To find the killowatt hours you multiply the killowatt usage by the hours the device is in use. Try it out, if you want to see how much it costs to use something for a year this will help you out.
So Amps x Volts = Watts 1000 Watts = 1 Killowatt Killowatts x hours = Killowatt hours and Killowatt hours x cost per kWh= your out of pocket expense for plugging it in.
On to the batteries. I checked a universal charger we have at work for batteries and the listed input wattage is 6W or .006kW. In this case, 4 - D batteries take 16.5 hours to charge so 16.5h x .006kw = .099 kWh. My power company charges about $9.10 per kWh so to charge all four D cells would cost me $0.90. That's only about $0.23 per battery charge.
Now this math is not perfect, there are variables and rechargables do tend to lose charge over time, but it can't be that far off. I also found that the wikipedia entry on batteries shows that an alkaline D-cell tops out at around 19500 mAh (this is basically how long the battery will last) or about 7.5 times longer lasting than a rechargable d-cell.
So the final price verdict, for rechargables: $30 initial cost +$230 for 1000 charges = $260
For alkalines you would need to buy about 133 batteries to equal the mAh of 1000 charges so at $5 apiece you would spend about $665.
So it looks like it does pay to use the rechargables in the long run unless there are a whole lot of variables I am missing. You will have to constantly change batteries though. Eh, hows my math? Sorry if it's hard to follow, I'm a little sleepy...
P.S. Doc M, you had the exact same thought as me I posted that vid and the nine volt hack on the first page, instructables rule!
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:41 PM by Obliv_au i race high end nitro powered RC cars and trucks worth + $1k ea that do up to 120kph/80mph out the box, so i have a fairly good understanding of batteries. (it may have a methanol/nitro fueled engine but it still has batteries in the electronics)
anyway, there is various tricks they use in the battery industry.
as some already found out, most "D" cells are a C cell in a larger case. you can feel how light the battery is.
if you buy quality rechargable "D" cells they are 100% packed solid and have a substantial amount of weight in them. its like lifting a chunk of steel
average D size = 2000mah C cell, or worse a rechargable QUALITY D = up to 10,000 mah! (yes, 10 amp hour, over 5x the life)
but wait, theres still more and it gets better coz this is a doozy! ya know those big ol dolphin torch batteries? the one which is like a very large block with a spring on the top for a terminal?
cut the top off one, you will score yourself 32 (yes, thirty two) AA batteries! <--see the video here for more info.
a 9V battery is nothing more than a whole stack of little batteries (watch sized) that add up to 9v.
however you cant always just switch over to rechargables
a regular AA alkaline = 1.5volts all rechargable AA = 1.2volts
so, you stick 4x alkaline in your fancy digi camera and get the full 6 volts. but if you put 4x rechargeables in you only get 4.8volts, which is barely over the 4.5v required to run a camera. it'll run for a long time but a slight voltage drop and your camera shuts down. use el cheapo AA rechargeables and you'd be lucky to turn it on.
this happens in our RC's. people go from 4x AA's and just swap them out for rechargeables. but with less voltage their car is right on the verge of losing signal and having what we call "a runaway" (car takes off on its own, i hope you can run fast!)
so to fix it we go from 4x AA disposable alkalines (4x 1.5v= 6v), to 5x rechargables (5x 1.2v = 6volt). we need an extra battery to make up the voltage difference.
rechargeables have slightly less volts but far more capacity. but in 95% of devices this small voltage loss will not matter because you will have 10x the battery life. (higher mah' capacity)
also, rechargables sustain stronger output in that they will give the same voltage from the start of a charge right through until "the last drop" (so to speak) where they just lose power suddenly.
a disposable will instantly start dropping voltage from the moment you turn it on.
if you go rechargeable's get yourself a decent peak detect charger. They automatically detect the battery type, charge it and switch off charge only when the battery is fully charged.
dont waste your time with non-peak detect chargers. most take 20 hours to trickle charge your battery and dont give a perfect charge. if you are intending to use them in a digi camera, a peak detect charger is a *must* have.
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so some battery tricks we've discovered are:
C cell (or AA) in a D cell case. (feels light and hollow)
32x AA's in a block type torch battery lots of small watch battery sized cells make up a small 9v battery and those 12 or 14.4volt drills with a clip in battery? they are nothing but C or D cells in a plastic, clip in case.
li-po (lithium polymer) batts as seen in phones + lap tops like to "vent" when they get hot or damaged, which causes a nice flame out the side of your battery about 3 feet long and super hot they are brilliant technology, but not stable enough at the moment.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:46 PM by jbondo As much as I want to dive in with my 0.02, I'm not even going to get myself worked up.
I found out long ago that big American companies don't want to sell quality products that last. It's hard to fight corporate America on anything when they have all the $$ and power.
I'd better stop as I can feel it welling up inside me.....
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Obliv_au Originally posted by Extralien
From my understanding of battery power (please anyone correct me if I'm wrong) a 1.5V AA with 2500mAh will last as long as a 1.5V D with 2500mAh.
So why the difference in size is needed is a dispute seeing as you can buy jackets to resize the batteries of choice. Which brings us back to the "conspiracy" of energizer by packaging an AA in a D jacket and selling it as a D rather than its true form of an AA.
its not a conspiracy. yes, a 2500mah C = the same life as a 2500 D and both output 1.5volts why put a C in a d size shell? because you cannot "1/4 pack" a D cell case and leave the other 3/4 of the D casing empty. and most people do not know anything about batteries or how to go and get the adaptors, and have no idea at all about voltage/milliamp hour, etc.
so, they get a c size batt and put it in a D size case. cheeky? maybe, clever? definately, but not a rip off, not in the slightest.
a proper *fully packed* D batt outputs as much as 10,000mah but they cost at least 2-3x more than a regular 2000mah "C in a D case" battery.
(best quality C cells = 3600mah. best quality D cell = 10,000mah)
effectively, your paying for the "packing" and technology that goes into the cells capacity. it has nothing to do with you paying for the cell's physical size at all.
as mah' rating in the batt goes up, so does the price. this is the same for all cells, including AA. i can get a AA 900mah nicad for about 2 or 3 bucks. but i'd rather buy a 3000mah nimh AA for $6.
much like the (false) bag of chips theory claimed on page 1. your paying for product WEIGHT, the air weighs nothing but stops your chips getting crushed. (you think its a jip, but its a false claim on your behalf)
your D battery maybe "half air" aswell, but your paying for the contents in the C. oh and it costs extra time and money to pack a C in a D case, so of course they charge extra for that hassle.
Originally posted by ExtralienPlease also don't forget to take into consideration your electricity bill for the actual recharging of all these batteries.
If 1 battery takes approximately 30 minutes to charge, what is the electrical power usage to charge the battery. Multiply that by however many batteries of the same size and storage capacity and, lets say the maximum charegable life of 1000 charges and you may find your electric bill might cost more than buying disposables.
Perhaps someone can be so kind to get some figures for that.
you need to look at the output of the charger and the capacity of the battery for true comparison.
for argument sake, lets go with oh... a 2000mah "D" size rechargeable batt for a nice round simple number
most cheap chargers (eg eveready/energiser sold in your local kmart) are absolute #. sorry, but its the truth. They have a set output and trickle charge your battery at a measly 100mah. anything less than about 70mah is NOT GOOD for rechargeables as the input is so low they cannot detect a proper charge being input due to resistance.
so, you have 2000mah capacity, it'll take you 20 hours @ a measly 100mah = the full 2000mah charge.
but if you spend $40+ on a peak detect charger it will do that same battery at about 1amp (1000mah) and in 2 hours your battery is done. it used the same amount of power but charged in less time. AND being peak detect it wont shut off till its 100% charged.
edit: oh, and being a quality charger it will charge ANY battery you use around home. AAA, AA, C, D, 9v. you name it.
those wall chargers usually need timing, never put out the full 100mah, and you NEVER get a perfect charge which makes your batteries appear weaker than they really are (like 1/2 filling your car then complaining a full tank isnt getting good mileage)
nicads = memory effect. ideally you need to cycle your batteries a few times before they come up to full power as they have sat on a shelf unused since production. nicads dont like being topped up, they prefer full charge/discharge (called a full cycle)
nimh = no memory effect, so they can be topped up as needed. but a good cycle is recommended now and then for optimum life. however, nimh do discharge when not in use but it is *extremely* minimal loss if your buying quality batteries.
so a few basic rechargeable tips are
buy quality batteries (fact: sony + panasonic are the WORLD LEADERS in rechargeable batteries)
buy a good quality Peak Detect charger to give them a good strong charge everytime.
and remember: your paying for the MAH (packing) not the case size.
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:28 PM by amitheone Usually, with a higher capacity battery, you can only recharge for around 500-600 times compared to 1,000 times for a lower capacity battery. Quick charging the battery may shorten the number of times you can recharge it.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:41 PM by Obliv_au Originally posted by amitheone Usually, with a higher capacity battery, you can only recharge for around 500-600 times compared to 1,000 times for a lower capacity battery. Quick charging the battery may shorten the number of times you can recharge it.
as long as your charge rate never exceeds its capacity, you will never shorten life.
so, a 2000mah battery can be fast charged safely for 1 hour at a maximum of 2amps ( 1hour x 2amp input = 2000mah charge)
but yes, some of those "charges in 30min" use cheap batteries and a high input rate to compensate. theyre not what i'd recommend anyway.
---------------------------- on another note, ive just made up this crude chart to try explain voltage + output more clearly of Disposable Vs rechargeable.
this chart assumes your comparing the same batt in a rechargeable Vs disposable (eg, both 2000mah "AA" batteries)
with a quality panasonic rechargeable and good peak detect charger, my AA's come up to 1.4 volts. slightly higher than the 1.2 theyre rated at because the batteries capacity "peaks" with every charge.
[edit on 8/1/08 by Obliv_au]
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 10:51 PM by amitheone reply to post by Obliv_au
Can connecting two 2500mah batteries in parallel, doubles the life? Now, it becomes a high capacity 5000mah battery.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 11:26 PM by Extralien Much thanks to 'thebeard' and to 'Obliv_au' for their great information. Every bit helps us put things into perspective for everyone.
Regarding the size being a 'mind trick' for most, it does make you wonder why they build devices to take different sized batteries.
If two different sized batteries have the same mAh then why make the sizes different?
You'd think that a bigger battery would have a higher mAh, in theory, yet this is not the case as we're all discovering. Why? What's the point of all the extra materials making something bigger when it works exactly the same in a smaller size?
Profit? Is that the point as to why this is done? If so, then that is the scam part of it all. IMO.
As Obliv_au states in his above post "most people do not know anything about batteries or how to go and get the adaptors, and have no idea at all about voltage/milliamp hour, etc."
Why not? It's not due to them being dumb. I feel it's more to do with these big companies not telling us, not advertising the resize battery jackets. I only found out about these jackets today whilst researching one of my earlier posts, although the info had just been posted whilst i was writing my post.
With all the different mAh ratings available, why do we not see these differences readily available in the shops? Why is the information regardig the differences not readily displayed in places where batteries are sold.
FLASH LIGHT LANTERN READING LAMP If your torch only needs 900mAh for 8 hours work, but your ipod needs 2500mAh for 8 hours work, why do the battery sellers not give this info?
People could save themselves some cash if they didn't buy the 2500 mAh for their torch if they knew they only needed the 900's
Or, without realising, they buy 900's for their ipod and 2 hours later they gotta buy more... why did they buy 900's? Maybe that's all the shop had. To most, a battery is a battery. If your device requires two AA the that's what you buy.
I personally cannot remember ever buying a device that stated I needed 2 AA with 2500 mAh for the device to run at it's most stable ability. I don't ever remember reading how a higher mAh will give you more 'play' time.
I for one would be happy to fork out on a 10,000mAh rechargeable than a 2500.
From the information posted in this thread, spending out on some good mAh and a good charger is worth every penny/cent.
Once again all, thanks for all the time and knowledge you've put in to this. I've learnt a few things and I'm glad for that.
These battery companies still seem to have a nice little earner going on and it would seem they want it to continue rather than provide a good, first class service to the people and the environment.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 11:32 PM by apc Every charge and discharge shortens a battery's life. You can charge as fast as a battery will take it without doing physical damage but you will not get the rated current back out. The slower the charge, the more will be returned. Also note the standard battery rating is a 20 hour capacity. That is if the battery is discharged over a period of 20 hours, XXAh is what you can generally expect. So a 2000mAh battery with a 100mA load should run for 20 hours (minus efficiency losses). Some manufacturers will use a longer time to inflate their rating.
NiMH is also susceptible to memory effect from improper charging but not as severe as NiCad.
I have some PowerEX batteries and they're pretty good for the price except for a quick self discharge. 3-4weeks for a fully charged 2700mAh AA to drain to 0.8V.
Oh, and as has been pretty well [detailed] this is nothing new. But the bunny sucks anyway. Shoot it.
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reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 12:28 AM by Fiverz This is one of the few times I have to speak up against ignorance and against the tide. You are -CLEARLY- getting the same mAs from a AA battery as you are from a D when you buy these packages. Nothing misleading at all. Most flashlights that take them, as others have said, cannot take AAs because there would be no support on the sides. Are these grossly overpriced for what you get? Hell yea. Misleading? Not if you can read. And has anyone opened up the average D battery? Some are C's but I wouldn't be suprised if you saw AAs too for some of the off brands. The letter equates to physical size of the battery, nothing more, nothing less.
One other thing .... what else is even made today for the -AVERAGE- consumer that even takes D's? A flashlight, perhaps a radio. That's it. If my D battery lasts a tenth of the time that a standard D does but I can recharge it multiple times, then I don't care if I could be getting a battery that lasts a sixth. Especially for things like flashlights that draw little current/are used occasionally to begin with.
I'm definitely not a fan of corporate mistruth/swindles and I steer well clear of big corp these days, but let's be fair here.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 01:08 AM by newkid Thanks for the tip, I should do the same thing and start my own battery business and be evil like them.
Luckly I don't buy size D, but I do buy AAA and AA, let me know if they cheating us on those too.
I will not feel sorry when Energizer goes down they got what they deserve for taking advantage of consumers. I know if I steal something from them I will be going to jail, so payback its a B****.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 02:08 AM by Obliv_au Originally posted by amitheone reply to post by Obliv_au
Can connecting two 2500mah batteries in parallel, doubles the life? Now, it becomes a high capacity 5000mah battery.
yes. however make sure the application can handle it.
eg: a mate got his kid a little cheapo RC hovercraft. it came with a batt pack (AAA's) but lasted about 10mins after charging.
i suggested a better pack, so he got much higher Mah batt's and we made one.
the thing ran for like 35min non stop and then the motor burnt out because it overheated. i guess the company designed it for 10mins use then the motor cools while the pack charges for an hour or two.
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basically, the different battery types can handle different current loads put on them.. a small AA will get hot quicker than a C or D. ive seen good quality batts overheat and "pop" due to the high draw rates put on them due to RC'ers having very expensive digital transmitters (the controller in lamens terms) these radio's really give a good quality set of 8x AA battery a work out.
some batt types handle the load better than others.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:17 AM by Extralien Again, Obliv comes up with some good info.
I never knew a battery could pop form heavy use like that.
Mind you, half the stuff that has been said in this thread I never knew. Just goes to show what they taught me at school. Didn't even learn some of this stuff whilst training to be a car mechanic.
I'm almost flabbergasted by the amount of info that is deliberately left out or hidden so that the consumer pays the max.
Looking at the internet now and we can all easily find the info we needed to make this thread, yet if it wasn't for this thread starting, myself and others may never have known any of this.
Thankfully though, I'll be a lot more interested in the power I buy for anything I need power for.
I used to buy Duracell, until I discovered Varta. Then Varta were not so easily available so it was a toss between duracell and eveready, until energizer came out.
Now, all three of those are out the window and I'll be looking at other brands completely. I MIGHT try powermax, or I'll try some of the others I've seen in my searches (which you can see in some of the links I provided).
I was just thinking how you can go shopping and find 15 brands of jam, 55 brands of cheeses, 6 brands of toilet rolls, 12 brands of corned beef, yet only 1 or 2 brands of batteries in the same store.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:31 AM by Obliv_au its been an interesting topic, something a bit more down to earth with a lot of knowledge + facts already out there instead of heresay and speculation as per usual threads it is extremely rare a nicad /nimh will actually pop under load, its more common for them to go due to charging them too fast (on adjustable input chargers) or for too long (non peak detect chargers) i havent tried the 32x AA's from a lantern battery trick i posted earlier because i have several dozen rechargeables, but i do wonder what the quality of them is like compared to a decent battery. (eg lantern batts Vs eveready, duracell or energiser) now that would be something worth finding out. usually at the cheap shops the big sledge of 20 batteries for a low low $3.00 are usually absolute garbage with almost zero charge to begin with. thats about the only thing that would come close to the 32xaa's as far as value goes.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:49 AM by Extralien Uk traffic works used to have these portable amber flashing lamps on the posts of the works barriers. I remember lots of people used to keep stealing them to get the big square battery from inside.
I know a few people who used to use the battery for their lights whilst fishing at night due to the amount of hours you could get out of them.
now we know why these were used.
I would suspect that the types of battery inside are of the industrial kind rather than what the public gets. as there's not many household appliance that require such big batteries.
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Unfortunately, this kind of shenanigans does not surprise me in the least bit.
A majority of people probably would not even look at the voltage when purchasing batteries. Its either A, AA, C, or D and I don't think I would notice either!
Great job corporate Amerika, another job well done .
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 07:31 PM by DocMoreau While I can see how someone might feel this is a scam, but the rechargeable battery states right on the side "2500mAh". As far as I know all rechargable batterys use this rating system to designate how much 'charge' they hold. The AAAs in my cordless phone are like 2900mAhs or something. The cell size there seems to be the standard size of a rechargable that you would find in a cordless drill battery pack... Its not like it is a hearing aid battery inside.
Perhaps what makes this feel like a scam is the fact that most humans equate size with effectiveness. An C cell won't properly fit in the space that a device that needs a D cell, so they used an adapter to make it fit. I agree that since we are conditioned that way, that it seems unfair in this case. I equate it to buying a 256MB sdcard, only to find it is a 256MB microsd, with adapter.
Then you realize that you should have gotten a 1GB, find out that you have been 'swindled' and complain that you don't have the storage you wish you did.
I recommend anyone interested in rechargeable batteries to goto a battery specialty store, and ask as many questions as you can, especially if you are thinking of buying 'brand name' rechargable cells. You maybe pleasantly surprised at the help, and the better charge for your buck. Then again, I might be lucky.
Also, if you want to see a real battery swindle, check this out: The 12V Battery Hack that Saves You $40
Did you know what is inside some batteries? About $40-worth of savings, it seems. Cut open an A23 battery (cost: 94¢) and you'll find eight 1.5-volt button batteries, each of whose RRP is around $4.99.
Another link with step by step photo instructions @ Instructables I especially like the 9 volt hack as well, but couldn't find it...
I also recommend that website: www.instructables.com... for all you "do-it-your-selfers". Lots of fun projects to do at home for little money. Enjoy! DocMoreau
[edit:metacafe video did not embed, so added photo from instructables, video is at both links]
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 07:45 PM by Indy Originally posted by Extralien Just found this and i think it is an absolute outrage as to the tricks these big companies are up to.
This will go down as one of my all time favorite threads on ATS. This is a conspiracy by Energizer to defraud customers by basically repacking an AA battery as a D. I hope everyone shares this thread with their friends. Maybe the press gets wind and it generates enough negative PR that Energizer is forced to react.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:06 PM by DocMoreau reply to post by Indy
I disagree. That is not a AA cell. That is a SUB-C sized cell used in Rechargeable battery packs. It is rated at a AA rating, so Energizer is not doing anyone a favor. I found 8 10,000mAh D sized cells at Batteryspace.com for around 60bucks. Most people are not willing to pay 8 bucks a battery though.
I do agree that Energizer is trying to milk as much cash out of us cows as they can.
The Rabbit is a big Pink Liar DocMoreau
PS... Maybe one of our electronics wiz-types can explain the mAh rating, I have no idea, (micro Amps per Hour?) and what a 'traditional' disposable battery's rating is, something like 1200mAh, I think.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:19 PM by thebeard Originally posted by Extralien
If 1 battery takes approximately 30 minutes to charge, what is the electrical power usage to charge the battery. Multiply that by however many batteries of the same size and storage capacity and, lets say the maximum charegable life of 1000 charges and you may find your electric bill might cost more than buying disposables.
Perhaps someone can be so kind to get some figures for that.
I'll try my hand at the math, It's actually pretty easy to figure out how much various electronics around your house cost to use but it's been a while since I've done it. I did this last in a college TV course where the assignment was to figure out how much you would pay to leave a tv on year round vs other appliances. Neat experiment, tv's came out on top most of the time.
Every piece of electronic gear should have a little plate or sticker that tells you a few things, the voltage, amps used, and/or watts used. If the piece of gear only lists the amps not the watts you can simply multiply the Amps by the Volts and that = watts.
Now turn those watts into killowatts since killowatt hours is what the power company bills you by: 1kW = 1000W so divide the wattage by 1000. To find the killowatt hours you multiply the killowatt usage by the hours the device is in use. Try it out, if you want to see how much it costs to use something for a year this will help you out.
So Amps x Volts = Watts 1000 Watts = 1 Killowatt Killowatts x hours = Killowatt hours and Killowatt hours x cost per kWh= your out of pocket expense for plugging it in.
On to the batteries. I checked a universal charger we have at work for batteries and the listed input wattage is 6W or .006kW. In this case, 4 - D batteries take 16.5 hours to charge so 16.5h x .006kw = .099 kWh. My power company charges about $9.10 per kWh so to charge all four D cells would cost me $0.90. That's only about $0.23 per battery charge.
Now this math is not perfect, there are variables and rechargables do tend to lose charge over time, but it can't be that far off. I also found that the wikipedia entry on batteries shows that an alkaline D-cell tops out at around 19500 mAh (this is basically how long the battery will last) or about 7.5 times longer lasting than a rechargable d-cell.
So the final price verdict, for rechargables: $30 initial cost +$230 for 1000 charges = $260
For alkalines you would need to buy about 133 batteries to equal the mAh of 1000 charges so at $5 apiece you would spend about $665.
So it looks like it does pay to use the rechargables in the long run unless there are a whole lot of variables I am missing. You will have to constantly change batteries though. Eh, hows my math? Sorry if it's hard to follow, I'm a little sleepy...
P.S. Doc M, you had the exact same thought as me I posted that vid and the nine volt hack on the first page, instructables rule!
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:41 PM by Obliv_au i race high end nitro powered RC cars and trucks worth + $1k ea that do up to 120kph/80mph out the box, so i have a fairly good understanding of batteries. (it may have a methanol/nitro fueled engine but it still has batteries in the electronics)
anyway, there is various tricks they use in the battery industry.
as some already found out, most "D" cells are a C cell in a larger case. you can feel how light the battery is.
if you buy quality rechargable "D" cells they are 100% packed solid and have a substantial amount of weight in them. its like lifting a chunk of steel
average D size = 2000mah C cell, or worse a rechargable QUALITY D = up to 10,000 mah! (yes, 10 amp hour, over 5x the life)
but wait, theres still more and it gets better coz this is a doozy! ya know those big ol dolphin torch batteries? the one which is like a very large block with a spring on the top for a terminal?
cut the top off one, you will score yourself 32 (yes, thirty two) AA batteries! <--see the video here for more info.
a 9V battery is nothing more than a whole stack of little batteries (watch sized) that add up to 9v.
however you cant always just switch over to rechargables
a regular AA alkaline = 1.5volts all rechargable AA = 1.2volts
so, you stick 4x alkaline in your fancy digi camera and get the full 6 volts. but if you put 4x rechargeables in you only get 4.8volts, which is barely over the 4.5v required to run a camera. it'll run for a long time but a slight voltage drop and your camera shuts down. use el cheapo AA rechargeables and you'd be lucky to turn it on.
this happens in our RC's. people go from 4x AA's and just swap them out for rechargeables. but with less voltage their car is right on the verge of losing signal and having what we call "a runaway" (car takes off on its own, i hope you can run fast!)
so to fix it we go from 4x AA disposable alkalines (4x 1.5v= 6v), to 5x rechargables (5x 1.2v = 6volt). we need an extra battery to make up the voltage difference.
rechargeables have slightly less volts but far more capacity. but in 95% of devices this small voltage loss will not matter because you will have 10x the battery life. (higher mah' capacity)
also, rechargables sustain stronger output in that they will give the same voltage from the start of a charge right through until "the last drop" (so to speak) where they just lose power suddenly.
a disposable will instantly start dropping voltage from the moment you turn it on.
if you go rechargeable's get yourself a decent peak detect charger. They automatically detect the battery type, charge it and switch off charge only when the battery is fully charged.
dont waste your time with non-peak detect chargers. most take 20 hours to trickle charge your battery and dont give a perfect charge. if you are intending to use them in a digi camera, a peak detect charger is a *must* have.
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so some battery tricks we've discovered are:
C cell (or AA) in a D cell case. (feels light and hollow) 32x AA's in a block type torch battery lots of small watch battery sized cells make up a small 9v battery
and those 12 or 14.4volt drills with a clip in battery? they are nothing but C or D cells in a plastic, clip in case.
li-po (lithium polymer) batts as seen in phones + lap tops like to "vent" when they get hot or damaged, which causes a nice flame out the side of your battery about 3 feet long and super hot they are brilliant technology, but not stable enough at the moment.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 08:46 PM by jbondo As much as I want to dive in with my 0.02, I'm not even going to get myself worked up.
I found out long ago that big American companies don't want to sell quality products that last. It's hard to fight corporate America on anything when they have all the $$ and power.
I'd better stop as I can feel it welling up inside me.....
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Obliv_au Originally posted by Extralien
From my understanding of battery power (please anyone correct me if I'm wrong) a 1.5V AA with 2500mAh will last as long as a 1.5V D with 2500mAh.
So why the difference in size is needed is a dispute seeing as you can buy jackets to resize the batteries of choice. Which brings us back to the "conspiracy" of energizer by packaging an AA in a D jacket and selling it as a D rather than its true form of an AA.
its not a conspiracy. yes, a 2500mah C = the same life as a 2500 D and both output 1.5volts why put a C in a d size shell? because you cannot "1/4 pack" a D cell case and leave the other 3/4 of the D casing empty. and most people do not know anything about batteries or how to go and get the adaptors, and have no idea at all about voltage/milliamp hour, etc.
so, they get a c size batt and put it in a D size case. cheeky? maybe, clever? definately, but not a rip off, not in the slightest.
a proper *fully packed* D batt outputs as much as 10,000mah but they cost at least 2-3x more than a regular 2000mah "C in a D case" battery.
(best quality C cells = 3600mah. best quality D cell = 10,000mah)
effectively, your paying for the "packing" and technology that goes into the cells capacity. it has nothing to do with you paying for the cell's physical size at all.
as mah' rating in the batt goes up, so does the price. this is the same for all cells, including AA. i can get a AA 900mah nicad for about 2 or 3 bucks. but i'd rather buy a 3000mah nimh AA for $6.
much like the (false) bag of chips theory claimed on page 1. your paying for product WEIGHT, the air weighs nothing but stops your chips getting crushed. (you think its a jip, but its a false claim on your behalf)
your D battery maybe "half air" aswell, but your paying for the contents in the C. oh and it costs extra time and money to pack a C in a D case, so of course they charge extra for that hassle.
Originally posted by ExtralienPlease also don't forget to take into consideration your electricity bill for the actual recharging of all these batteries.
If 1 battery takes approximately 30 minutes to charge, what is the electrical power usage to charge the battery. Multiply that by however many batteries of the same size and storage capacity and, lets say the maximum charegable life of 1000 charges and you may find your electric bill might cost more than buying disposables.
Perhaps someone can be so kind to get some figures for that.
you need to look at the output of the charger and the capacity of the battery for true comparison.
for argument sake, lets go with oh... a 2000mah "D" size rechargeable batt for a nice round simple number
most cheap chargers (eg eveready/energiser sold in your local kmart) are absolute #. sorry, but its the truth. They have a set output and trickle charge your battery at a measly 100mah. anything less than about 70mah is NOT GOOD for rechargeables as the input is so low they cannot detect a proper charge being input due to resistance.
so, you have 2000mah capacity, it'll take you 20 hours @ a measly 100mah = the full 2000mah charge.
but if you spend $40+ on a peak detect charger it will do that same battery at about 1amp (1000mah) and in 2 hours your battery is done. it used the same amount of power but charged in less time. AND being peak detect it wont shut off till its 100% charged.
edit: oh, and being a quality charger it will charge ANY battery you use around home. AAA, AA, C, D, 9v. you name it.
those wall chargers usually need timing, never put out the full 100mah, and you NEVER get a perfect charge which makes your batteries appear weaker than they really are (like 1/2 filling your car then complaining a full tank isnt getting good mileage)
nicads = memory effect. ideally you need to cycle your batteries a few times before they come up to full power as they have sat on a shelf unused since production. nicads dont like being topped up, they prefer full charge/discharge (called a full cycle)
nimh = no memory effect, so they can be topped up as needed. but a good cycle is recommended now and then for optimum life. however, nimh do discharge when not in use but it is *extremely* minimal loss if your buying quality batteries.
so a few basic rechargeable tips are buy quality batteries (fact: sony + panasonic are the WORLD LEADERS in rechargeable batteries) buy a good quality Peak Detect charger to give them a good strong charge everytime.
and remember: your paying for the MAH (packing) not the case size.
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:28 PM by amitheone Usually, with a higher capacity battery, you can only recharge for around 500-600 times compared to 1,000 times for a lower capacity battery. Quick charging the battery may shorten the number of times you can recharge it.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:41 PM by Obliv_au Originally posted by amitheone Usually, with a higher capacity battery, you can only recharge for around 500-600 times compared to 1,000 times for a lower capacity battery. Quick charging the battery may shorten the number of times you can recharge it.
as long as your charge rate never exceeds its capacity, you will never shorten life.
so, a 2000mah battery can be fast charged safely for 1 hour at a maximum of 2amps ( 1hour x 2amp input = 2000mah charge)
but yes, some of those "charges in 30min" use cheap batteries and a high input rate to compensate. theyre not what i'd recommend anyway.
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on another note, ive just made up this crude chart to try explain voltage + output more clearly of Disposable Vs rechargeable.
this chart assumes your comparing the same batt in a rechargeable Vs disposable (eg, both 2000mah "AA" batteries)
with a quality panasonic rechargeable and good peak detect charger, my AA's come up to 1.4 volts. slightly higher than the 1.2 theyre rated at because the batteries capacity "peaks" with every charge.
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 10:51 PM by amitheone reply to post by Obliv_au
Thanks for the info. Can connecting two 2500mah batteries in parallel, doubles the life? Now, it becomes a high capacity 5000mah battery.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 11:26 PM by Extralien Much thanks to 'thebeard' and to 'Obliv_au' for their great information. Every bit helps us put things into perspective for everyone.
Regarding the size being a 'mind trick' for most, it does make you wonder why they build devices to take different sized batteries.
If two different sized batteries have the same mAh then why make the sizes different?
You'd think that a bigger battery would have a higher mAh, in theory, yet this is not the case as we're all discovering. Why? What's the point of all the extra materials making something bigger when it works exactly the same in a smaller size?
Profit? Is that the point as to why this is done? If so, then that is the scam part of it all. IMO.
As Obliv_au states in his above post "most people do not know anything about batteries or how to go and get the adaptors, and have no idea at all about voltage/milliamp hour, etc."
Why not? It's not due to them being dumb. I feel it's more to do with these big companies not telling us, not advertising the resize battery jackets. I only found out about these jackets today whilst researching one of my earlier posts, although the info had just been posted whilst i was writing my post.
With all the different mAh ratings available, why do we not see these differences readily available in the shops? Why is the information regardig the differences not readily displayed in places where batteries are sold.
If your torch only needs 900mAh for 8 hours work, but your ipod needs 2500mAh for 8 hours work, why do the battery sellers not give this info? People could save themselves some cash if they didn't buy the 2500 mAh for their torch if they knew they only needed the 900's
Or, without realising, they buy 900's for their ipod and 2 hours later they gotta buy more... why did they buy 900's? Maybe that's all the shop had. To most, a battery is a battery. If your device requires two AA the that's what you buy.
I personally cannot remember ever buying a device that stated I needed 2 AA with 2500 mAh for the device to run at it's most stable ability. I don't ever remember reading how a higher mAh will give you more 'play' time.
I for one would be happy to fork out on a 10,000mAh rechargeable than a 2500.
From the information posted in this thread, spending out on some good mAh and a good charger is worth every penny/cent.
Once again all, thanks for all the time and knowledge you've put in to this. I've learnt a few things and I'm glad for that.
These battery companies still seem to have a nice little earner going on and it would seem they want it to continue rather than provide a good, first class service to the people and the environment.
reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 11:32 PM by apc Every charge and discharge shortens a battery's life. You can charge as fast as a battery will take it without doing physical damage but you will not get the rated current back out. The slower the charge, the more will be returned. Also note the standard battery rating is a 20 hour capacity. That is if the battery is discharged over a period of 20 hours, XXAh is what you can generally expect. So a 2000mAh battery with a 100mA load should run for 20 hours (minus efficiency losses). Some manufacturers will use a longer time to inflate their rating.
NiMH is also susceptible to memory effect from improper charging but not as severe as NiCad.
I have some PowerEX batteries and they're pretty good for the price except for a quick self discharge. 3-4weeks for a fully charged 2700mAh AA to drain to 0.8V.
Oh, and as has been pretty well [detailed] this is nothing new. But the bunny sucks anyway. Shoot it.
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reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 12:28 AM by Fiverz This is one of the few times I have to speak up against ignorance and against the tide. You are -CLEARLY- getting the same mAs from a AA battery as you are from a D when you buy these packages. Nothing misleading at all. Most flashlights that take them, as others have said, cannot take AAs because there would be no support on the sides. Are these grossly overpriced for what you get? Hell yea. Misleading? Not if you can read. And has anyone opened up the average D battery? Some are C's but I wouldn't be suprised if you saw AAs too for some of the off brands. The letter equates to physical size of the battery, nothing more, nothing less.
One other thing .... what else is even made today for the -AVERAGE- consumer that even takes D's? A flashlight, perhaps a radio. That's it. If my D battery lasts a tenth of the time that a standard D does but I can recharge it multiple times, then I don't care if I could be getting a battery that lasts a sixth. Especially for things like flashlights that draw little current/are used occasionally to begin with.
I'm definitely not a fan of corporate mistruth/swindles and I steer well clear of big corp these days, but let's be fair here.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 01:08 AM by newkid Thanks for the tip, I should do the same thing and start my own battery business and be evil like them.
Luckly I don't buy size D, but I do buy AAA and AA, let me know if they cheating us on those too.
I will not feel sorry when Energizer goes down they got what they deserve for taking advantage of consumers. I know if I steal something from them I will be going to jail, so payback its a B****.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 02:08 AM by Obliv_au Originally posted by amitheone reply to post by Obliv_au
Can connecting two 2500mah batteries in parallel, doubles the life? Now, it becomes a high capacity 5000mah battery.
yes. however make sure the application can handle it.
eg: a mate got his kid a little cheapo RC hovercraft. it came with a batt pack (AAA's) but lasted about 10mins after charging.
i suggested a better pack, so he got much higher Mah batt's and we made one.
the thing ran for like 35min non stop and then the motor burnt out because it overheated. i guess the company designed it for 10mins use then the motor cools while the pack charges for an hour or two.
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basically, the different battery types can handle different current loads put on them.. a small AA will get hot quicker than a C or D. ive seen good quality batts overheat and "pop" due to the high draw rates put on them due to RC'ers having very expensive digital transmitters (the controller in lamens terms) these radio's really give a good quality set of 8x AA battery a work out.
some batt types handle the load better than others.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:17 AM by Extralien Again, Obliv comes up with some good info.
I never knew a battery could pop form heavy use like that.
Mind you, half the stuff that has been said in this thread I never knew. Just goes to show what they taught me at school. Didn't even learn some of this stuff whilst training to be a car mechanic.
I'm almost flabbergasted by the amount of info that is deliberately left out or hidden so that the consumer pays the max.
Looking at the internet now and we can all easily find the info we needed to make this thread, yet if it wasn't for this thread starting, myself and others may never have known any of this.
Thankfully though, I'll be a lot more interested in the power I buy for anything I need power for.
I used to buy Duracell, until I discovered Varta. Then Varta were not so easily available so it was a toss between duracell and eveready, until energizer came out.
Now, all three of those are out the window and I'll be looking at other brands completely. I MIGHT try powermax, or I'll try some of the others I've seen in my searches (which you can see in some of the links I provided).
I was just thinking how you can go shopping and find 15 brands of jam, 55 brands of cheeses, 6 brands of toilet rolls, 12 brands of corned beef, yet only 1 or 2 brands of batteries in the same store.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:31 AM by Obliv_au its been an interesting topic, something a bit more down to earth with a lot of knowledge + facts already out there instead of heresay and speculation as per usual threads
it is extremely rare a nicad /nimh will actually pop under load, its more common for them to go due to charging them too fast (on adjustable input chargers) or for too long (non peak detect chargers)
i havent tried the 32x AA's from a lantern battery trick i posted earlier because i have several dozen rechargeables, but i do wonder what the quality of them is like compared to a decent battery. (eg lantern batts Vs eveready, duracell or energiser)
now that would be something worth finding out. usually at the cheap shops the big sledge of 20 batteries for a low low $3.00 are usually absolute garbage with almost zero charge to begin with. thats about the only thing that would come close to the 32xaa's as far as value goes.
reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 08:49 AM by Extralien Uk traffic works used to have these portable amber flashing lamps on the posts of the works barriers. I remember lots of people used to keep stealing them to get the big square battery from inside.
I know a few people who used to use the battery for their lights whilst fishing at night due to the amount of hours you could get out of them.
now we know why these were used.
I would suspect that the types of battery inside are of the industrial kind rather than what the public gets. as there's not many household appliance that require such big batteries.
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